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My beautiful stitch obsession...I don't understand what it is with black thread...
JillyBean333 Intermediate MN USA Member since 10/20/07 Posts: 935	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 12/16/12 10:45 AM So, I bought a Viking Tribute 140 C last spring and haven't sewed much with it. Until recently. I decided to make some Christmas gifts. I threaded with black thread and the stitches looked just awful. I remember something about black thread on the forums before...threaded with blue thread and the stitches are just beautiful. I'm really confused. What could possibly be different about black thread (oh and I have the guterman thread that everyone says is so great)? I threaded with blue coats and clark (which everyone says is awful). Thanks for any insight. ------ JillyBean http://craftysupreme.etsy.com
Soolip Advanced CA USA Member since 6/18/08 Posts: 1993	Login to reply to this post Like this post Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/16/12 11:30 AM Try using cotton thread instead of polyester. This will improve the appearance of your stitches, regardless of the color.
tgm and Kittys   Advanced Beginner WI USA Member since 3/8/10 Posts: 6941	Login to reply to this post In reply to Soolip << 1 member likes this. Date: 12/16/12 11:38 AM Did you say some time ago also Microtek needles helps make a better stitch too? .... I just wondered .... Thank you! ------ I am a gal from Kalamazoo.... oh what a gal... smile.... It is in Michigan... la la la ...love that Glen Miller classic! Home of Abigail The Babykins & Lil Mittee kitty >^,,^ Be Still, & Know That I am, God + Please say a prayer for my poor feet. ... + ..one month down .. 6 weeks more to go.. They are healing. Thanks everyone for your prayers. 5/8/13 smile
PattiAnnJ   Advanced OH USA Member since 12/3/06 Posts: 4982	Login to reply to this post 1 member likes this. Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/16/12 12:13 PM Black thread can be weaker than the other colors due to the over-dyeing process. This may, or may not be the issue. But there is some reason navy/dark blue gives better results than black. I have been using Robison-Anton poly thread without any issues. I got a good price on a lot from Shoppers Rule thinking I would use it for charity projects and found it worth reordering for my personal sewing projects. I prefer the microtex type needle, but in this case it seems to be the thread and not the needle. -- Edited on 12/16/12 12:14 PM --
jannw   Intermediate WA USA Member since 9/3/06 Posts: 7392	Login to reply to this post In reply to JillyBean333 << Like this post Date: 12/16/12 1:25 PM It may have something to do with the dye itself. If you shop yarn departments and feel the yarns, usually the black feels rougher than other colors in the same brand. It sounds as if your machine is sensitive....How old is the machine? I've found that my two modern machines like the Guterman and will sew with the Coats and Clark, but not make a perfect looking stitch. My vintage machines are just the opposite..they like the C & C the best! ------ 2009-113.25 yds 2010-115.5 2011-80.25+30+donated 2012 86.3 yds.. 2013 21.0 Everyone who sews seriously has a stockpile of fabrics, because it is natural to purchase more than can be sewn in any one season" Singer, Timesaving Sewing, 1987
Marie367   Intermediate OH USA Member since 5/28/11 Posts: 1360	Login to reply to this post In reply to JillyBean333 << Like this post Date: 12/16/12 4:24 PM Try the black in C & C. I don't like guterman thread. I tried it based on good reports here too but it shreds and it is well dusty (that is not a normal word for thread but I don't know what else to say). I only use C & C now. Hancock's sells Mettler but I haven't tried it yet. I don't know why people say they don't like C & C. I don't have problems with it. It is interesting that people are saying it is the dye in the black thread that makes it weak-I just don't have a problem with it and I use black alot. It will be interesting to see what others say. HTH.
NottaWadder   Advanced Beginner Member since 6/17/12 Posts: 377	Login to reply to this post 2 members like this. Date: 12/16/12 6:15 PM Quote: and it is well dusty (that is not a normal word for thread but I don't know what else to say). Linty? ------ My Singer crew: Sergei - Serger 14T968DC (set up as coverstitch) Stella - Serger Stylist II 14J250 (set up as main overlock) Quincy - Quantum 9960 (my main SM) Newest addition: Stevie, my very first Featherweight! (221 Centennial)
NM gal   Beginner Member since 5/27/09 Posts: 1157	Login to reply to this post 1 member likes this. Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/16/12 6:19 PM I didn't have any problems w/ C&C when we lived in OH either. Maybe it's the humidity... but have been having problems w/ all the brands of thread here in NM. It's soooooo dry.
beauturbo Advanced CA USA Member since 5/2/09 Posts: 1443	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 12/16/12 10:37 PM Black thread (or even dark blue or whatever) is often a stinker and handles different from lighter colors sometimes. I do think sometimes it makes it stiffer and less bendable. Even across all brands and fiber types. I think it's just even because of the sheer amount of dye it has to retain, in it, to even get it and keep it that dark and black sometimes.
Maia B   Advanced Beginner IL USA Member since 10/27/10 Posts: 3395	Login to reply to this post Like this post Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/17/12 1:14 AM I read that black thread sometimes started life as another color, which didn't come out right, then was dyed black to salvage it. So it's at least sometimes overdyed, overprocessed, like hair which is bleach then colored. ------ 🌸 Plenty of machines, mostly Berninas 🌸

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