Sewing Patterns, Pattern Review, Sewing Classes, Sewing Machines and Sewing Machine Reviews!
Platinum Sponsor: Lutterloh Patterns
Make Patterns That Fit. Watch Video Now!

[SIGNUP - FREE Membership & 1 FREE Sewing Lesson ]
[Sewing Classes|Shopping Bag Your Shopping Bag|Login|Help]
Sewing Review and Pattern Reviews Sewing Knowledge Base Sewing Patterns Sewing Classes & Sewing Lessons Sewing Machine & Embroidery Machinery Sewing Message Boards Sewing merchants Blog Help/FAQ About Pattern Review
Enter your e-mail address:




Advanced Search
Tags
New to PR?
Sewing Machines
Compare Sewing Machines
Sewing Machine & Serger Reviews
Embroidery Machines
Sewing Reviews
Sewing Patterns
Review Gallery
Sewing Books
Sewing Supplies
Sewing Websites
Sewing Stores
Sewing Class Reviews
Sewing Expo Reviews
Sewing Tips & Techniques
Sewing Podcasts
NEW!Fabric Glossary
Sewing Review Requests Add a Review Request
Your Account
Edit Profile
My Page
Favorites
Wish List
Pattern Catalog
Notifications
Friends of PR
Join Friends of PR
Find a member
Deal Corner
Photo Album
Calendar
Chat Room
Chat Schedule
Chat Transcripts
Sewing Classifieds
Add a Classified
Sewing Contests
enter contest
contest report
contest gallery
Favorite Links
reviews with comments
merchant gallery
article archive
newsletter archive
Craft Resources
contact info
shipping rates
returns & refunds
testimonials

Platinum Sponsor - Lutterloh Patterns
Lutterloh Patterns
You are not logged in. Login here.



Message Board > Beginner's Forum > Which seam technique is used on Men's RTW shirts? ( Moderated by EleanorSews)

Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
Go to Page:
Which seam technique is used on Men's RTW shirts?
DOGLOVER389
DOGLOVER389
Advanced Beginner
Member since 1/11/12
Posts: 104
Login to reply to this post

Date: 12/29/12 4:02 PM

Hi All,

I am looking at some of my RTW shirts and cannot figure out which seam technique is used on the side and sleeve seams.

I know it is a continuous seam, but it neither seems to be a French nor Flat Felled seam.

Both of those seams leave a single line of stitching and teh only visible stitching on the RTW garments is done with a twin needle.

The raw edges are completely enclosed, but I cannot envision how to do that without first basting the seams, which I doubt they do during the construction of hte RTW garments.

Can anyone tell me which technique is used on those seams, or how to do it?

Many thanx.


DogLover389

------
Cut my teeth on a Kenmore 117.58

http://pages.sewing-machine-manuals.com/173/PictPage/1922064294.html

Singer Merritt 9612

Scheri
star
Scheri  Friend of PR
Advanced Beginner
AB CANADA
Member since 7/13/10
Posts: 255
Login to reply to this post

Date: 12/30/12 2:43 AM

They would be flat felled seams.

if you are interested craftsy.com has a great course with Pam Howard on Tailored Shirts.

------
Scheri Manson
Edmonton, AB CANADA

SandiMacD
star
SandiMacD  Friend of PR
Intermediate
FL USA
Member since 2/8/09
Posts: 1162
Login to reply to this post

Subject: Which seam technique is used on Mens RTW shirts? Date: 12/30/12 4:26 AM

I'm taking her class. She is very meticulous about every detail.

------
re-living my youth through sewing...

Karla Kizer
starstarstar
Karla Kizer  Friend of PR
Advanced
FL USA
Member since 4/8/02
Posts: 7049
Login to reply to this post

In reply to DOGLOVER389 <<


Date: 12/30/12 6:46 AM

If you use a flat-felled seam, start by stitching the seam line with the wrong sides of the fabric together. That stitching line will, of course, be visible. Then, when the seam allowance is folded and pressed on the outside of the garment, you'll edgestitch that fold in place and that's the second line of visible stitching.

------
“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.” -Robert Heinlein and Ann's father. Thanks for the reminder, Ann.

Where are we going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Matthew 25:40 (New International Version)
The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'



Vireya
Vireya
Intermediate
AUSTRALIA
Member since 12/10/05
Posts: 787
Login to reply to this post

Subject: Which seam technique is used on Mens RTW shirts? Date: 12/30/12 5:42 PM

Industrial processes don't involve any basting because they have special felling machines which do all the folding of edges and stitching all in one pass. Reproducing the effect at home takes more time and effort as Karla has described.

andye
andye  Friend of PR
Beginner
VA USA
Member since 5/9/09
Posts: 1550
Login to reply to this post

Date: 12/30/12 7:23 PM

Better shirts are made using a single needle tailoring process that still involves two passes with the needle. Industrial machines do have better quality feet and attachments, and have enough pressure that pins are not required, but some of this can be imitated by home sewers.

see this thread for more details
-- Edited on 12/30/12 7:26 PM --

dscheidt

dscheidt
Member since 6/8/09
Posts: 251
Login to reply to this post

In reply to Karla Kizer <<


Date: 12/30/12 10:48 PM

Quote: Karla Kizer
If you use a flat-felled seam, start by stitching the seam line with the wrong sides of the fabric together. That stitching line will, of course, be visible. Then, when the seam allowance is folded and pressed on the outside of the garment, you'll edgestitch that fold in place and that's the second line of visible stitching.

That depends on the effect you want. Many of my best quality shirts are done with a single needle machine, with two passes, same as you'd do at home, of those, many have at least some of the seams done with right sides together, and so only one line of visible stitching. I'd want two lines of stitching on something where I want the stitching to be noticed, but not something where it's disappearing.
Miss Fairchild
starstarstarstar
Miss Fairchild  Friend of PR
Advanced
USA
Member since 8/24/02
Posts: 7111
Login to reply to this post

In reply to dscheidt <<


Date: 12/31/12 8:10 AM

Karla's right on this, but she didn't mention you trim one of the seam allowances very close to the stitching, then fold the larger seam allowance over. The first seam allowance will roll toward the front to be visible. I do alterations for a men's store and this is how I do it, and I have to do it in two passes.

------
"We don't impose our rhythm on Nature. The key is to respect and live within Her." Jean-Charles Boisset, Winemaker
"And no, now that you asked, I didn't enjoy that play one bit, and I'd like a refund" Signed, Mrs. Lincoln
My Etsy shop: auntmaymesattic
My blog: auntmaymesattic.wordpress.com
Avatar: First place award for jacket at county fair

Karla Kizer
starstarstar
Karla Kizer  Friend of PR
Advanced
FL USA
Member since 4/8/02
Posts: 7049
Login to reply to this post

In reply to Miss Fairchild <<


Date: 12/31/12 10:10 AM

You're right. My instructions were abbreviated; I hate to scare someone away with too many details. In fact, my favorite way to do those seams is to trim one of them to 1/4"-5/16" before I stitch it.

------
“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.” -Robert Heinlein and Ann's father. Thanks for the reminder, Ann.

Where are we going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Matthew 25:40 (New International Version)
The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'



Go to Page:
Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com. If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Post button to report it. Beginner's Forum >> Which seam technique is used on Men's RTW shirts?

Merchants on PR
Fitz Like a Glove Ironing Board Cover
Made In Australia
Deals!
SewBaby
Unique Sewing Patterns
Deals!
Reconstructing History
Reconstructing History
Web site
Patterns from the Past
vintage sewing patterns
Deals!
Chantilly Dreams ~ Vintage Patterns & Antique Lace
Patterns Ship Free in US
Deals!

Copyright © 2013 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.
Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Online Sewing Classes
Understanding Knit Fabrics
Fee: $54.00
(Regular $54.00)
Understanding Knit Fabrics

Online Sewing Classes
More Knits
Fee: $54.00
(Regular $54.00)
More Knits

Sewaholic Patterns 1204 Alma
photo
Review by Byrdie on 2/28/13
Read Review

Other Japanese Pattern Book Empire-Dress
photo
Review by alviana on 4/19/10
Read Review

Learn to Sew a Shirt or Blouse DVD
Learn to Sew a Shirt or Blouse DVD

Details
Price: $19.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Sewing Workshop Liberty Shirt Pattern
Sewing Workshop Liberty Shirt Pattern

Details
Price: $22.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Butterick 5934 Pattern ( Size )
Butterick 5934 Pattern ( Size  )

Details
Price: $19.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Butterick 5887 Pattern ( Size 14-16-18-20-22 )
Butterick 5887 Pattern ( Size 14-16-18-20-22 )

Details
Price: $19.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Subscribe to PR Message Board Feed Subscribe to the PR Message Board Feed Add to My Yahoo! Subscribe at NewsGator Online Subscribe at Bloglines Add to MyMSN