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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Pfaff 2058 or Pfaff Ambition 1.5? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 12/30/12 3:05 PM

I'm trying to decide between the Pfaff 2058 and Ambition 1.5. and keep going back and forth. I've sold the Pfaff 2140/2170 as I found it too complex.The nearest dealer is over an hour away, and I felt overwhelmed.
Things that are important is that it has IDT (both do), and simple to operate. But at the same time has what I need. I really enjoy quilting and just starting to get into garment construction.I 've found one 2058 where the seller is willing to take installment payments, but is asking $1200. One person in this group said that if you found one to snap it up.
I also like the ambition 1.5, it's a newer machine, and the closest dealer is selling it for $999, but will take both installment payments and another sewing machine -probably just one of the above. I've read on different reviews that its user friendly. I talked to a person that owns the ambition 1.5 and she said it was very easy to use as well as lighter in weight which is a plus for me.

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Date: 12/30/12 4:00 PM

I love my 2058. I bought it used about a year and a half ago for $1500 including lots of feet. I think $1200 is fair and installments are nice. The machine is made in Czechoslovakia to German specs before the merger with Singer and Viking. It is not huge, very compact and has wonderful features. The decorative stitches are beautiful. The machine kept many of the great features of it's predecessors, one of which, the 1471, I used for over 25 years and is still going strong. The added features make it a dream to use.
I know nothing about the Ambition. Maybe an owner will chime in.....

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Date: 12/30/12 4:03 PM

Is there any difference in the harp size? If you are quilting that would make a difference. I have a 2056 upgraded to 2058. It's a easy machine to use and learn, I keep it for classes and to use on holidays at our weekender.

The small harp space it a downside and mine seems to grab a little at one side at the start of a seem. There are a lot of specialty feet you can get with it IDT is nice especially with stitch in ditch foot for small projects. It has a ton of deco stitches including a not bad stippling stitch.

It's pretty rugged - I've had mine drop when shelf it was on collapsed, and I've carted it around without a case as the trolley never fitted in my mini. So I attest to its portability for sure.

I just had it out over the holiday and brought it back for a class in January and I had forgotten what a nice machine it was.

I haven't seen ambition so I can't help you there.

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Date: 12/30/12 4:53 PM

Now I have someone with a Pfaff 2056 willing to sell for
$700 plus shipping. The $1200 on the 2058 included shipping.
Is the 2058 that much better then then the 2056?

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Date: 12/30/12 4:54 PM

I've seen the 1.5 at $900-$999 so I don't know that the price is very good on that one if he's taking a trade. What would you be trading? The 2058 seems a little high to me also but that may be because the seller is willing to take installments? Is this a dealer? If it is a dealer and the machine is certified with a bit of warranty, it might be decent but if through an individual, perhaps a little risk involved too. The 1.5 is a totally different beast imho but still a very good/solid machine. The 2056 had some problems initially and I don't know if the 2058 corrected those or not--but the foot would "dance" from time to time (raise up and down). I don't know for how long Pfaff is keeping parts for their models but a dealer will know and that could be a factor for the 2058. Spending that much, I'd probably prefer new with warranty unless the 2058 had something I really wanted that the 1.5 lacked.

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Date: 12/30/12 4:59 PM

Molly, the 2056 is the only one of the 20xx series that did have a problem. This has been around 10 years ago now but I do remember that Pfaff did not resolve the issue w/ the dancing foot that many people encountered. Probably some did not have the problem but you might want to google that model or read some of the reviews before you go that route.

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Date: 12/30/12 5:01 PM

Hey Molly,

Did you the reviews of machines here on PR? Another place to spend tons is reading the "I LovePfaff" or Viva Viking, or Juki Junkies -- whatever the I LOVE this machine Threads here -- I'm going through the Same decision grading up to something that will keep me busy learning for MANY years :-)

I have only looked at the Pfaff 150th edition, and the Pfaff Expression 4.0 (What my dealer had during a quick peek).

I have owned a Pfaff Hobby for about 8 years and we had a love/hate relationship at 1st - after several months of learning curve we came to terms and she LOVES me and I ADORE her! She is still running, but I want the larger harp space to quilt and hope I'm ready to get a computerized.

OHH random thoughts -- since your dealer is so far away, do you have a Local alteration shop? The lady I found very near me LOVES all types of sewing machines, and she would give me classes any time, and also gives classes on quilting, scrapbooking etc. So you wouldn't have to make a huge drive to get a class -- or a local community college?

Good luck on YOUR decision, machines out there are Overwhelming and the list of features are making it harder to decide.

Wish you the Best in getting a user friendly one that you LOVE

;-Debbie

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Date: 12/30/12 7:05 PM

I bought my 2056 I think 2007, the 2058 wasn't far behind. Mine like I said never had any problems. I don't think there was much difference the big deal was the stitch editor/creator function. I didn't even know it could be upgraded until I took mine in for service ( or maybe after dropping incident) but he told me as mine was one of the late 2056 he could upgrade the software to most of the 2058 he did. I think the 2058 is only incrementally different. I can't say about pricing but I bought mine new and Australian prices are generally higher and certainly were in 2007.

I just looked at the back of mine -no year model just serial number and type
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Date: 12/30/12 7:33 PM

My 2056 never did a "foot dance." I think the 2058 had a few more stitches, but otherwise they are pretty similar. The 2056 and 2058 will have a standard size harp. Is the ambition larger?
There are nice quilting stitches on the 2056. I bound a quilt and was happy with the look.

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Date: 12/30/12 9:03 PM

The 2058 is front loading; the ambition has a top loading bobbin. The ambition has 7mm wide stitches; the 2058 has the wider 9mm stitches.

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