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Date: 1/14/13 5:47 PM

I picked up 2 simplicity patterns today at the fabric store to make my grandaughter a top to go with her pajama bottoms I just finished but either I'm brain dead or there is something I'm missing.

I'm trying to determine what size to make. It's one of those patterns that go from child to adult. simple pattern - not simple picking out the right size.

Pattern Simplicity 3577. Her chest size is 28-1/2. I think I need the size medium but as I follow the size down to the bottom it shows the chest size as 34-1/2.

I just went thru this with another pattern for my other granddaughter. I picked the size according to the envelope, but noticed AFTER I cut it out - the size was marked on the pattern tissue and indicated the FINISHED size was what I thought the unfinished size was.

I've had problems with Simplicity patterns in the past being marked wrong. The other top is almost done and I need to get this one done tonight. I hope the first one fits. I want to make top "C". I also bought simplicity 5271 and if I use that one, I'd use top "A". same problem. not sure which size to pick. I think the 10-12 is what I want. I also believe the measurements at the bottom are the finished sizes which would make sense. However in the top I just made - the mesurements on the tissue were the same as on the envelope. No design ease or mismarked............

Simplicity were the only ones on sale today. otherwise I would have bought McCalls.

HELP?

thanks,
-susie

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Date: 1/14/13 9:34 PM

The child's girth at the widest point is what matters. If you've got that and the height or length of the kid, all you have to do then is adjust the length.

This is the problem with choosing a 'size,' because nobody is one size! Except maybe for fit models.

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Date: 1/14/13 10:58 PM

The measurements at the bottom of the pattern envelope are the finished garment measurements. (Sometimes, finished garment measurements are on the tissue as well.) Subtract the measurements listed for that size from the finished garment measurement, and that will tell you how much design and or wearing ease that style includes. Jammies should be comfy and allow ample room for movement.
As for design and or wearing ease being included on the top you just made, did you measure the actual pattern pieces and compare with the measurements for the size you cut to determine if ease was added? I guess, I would be more concerned with numbers that actually mean something rather than mismarking, so that's how I would decide which size to use. I know it's a pain, but I'm working on a pattern now that I swear someone was drinking while drafting. Thankfully, I can correct for it, but I feel bad for the newbies, trying their hand with messed up patterns or directions. BTW, you can go to their website and check out their size charts which will also tell give you children's heights for each corresponding size.
-- Edited on 1/14/13 11:01 PM --

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Date: 1/15/13 0:56 AM

Yes you are right - the measurements at the top of the pattern envelope are body measurements and the measurements at the bottom are finished garment measurements.

If there are measurement printed on the tissue pattern as well, these will be finished garment measurements and should be the same as those shown on the pattern envelope for finished garment measurements.

Since your granddaughter has a chest measurement of 28 1/2" she is at the small end of a size Medium 10/12. The finished garment measurements for this size is 34 1/2" chest, giving you 6" of ease. This is pretty roomy but may be OK for PJ's. I measured my 12yo daughter who has a chest measurement of 28". Finished garment measurement of 34 1/2" looked too baggy on her - around 32/33" was better. She is tall and slim. If it were me, I would make the Medium 10/12 if your granddaughter is a good height for her age but just slim down the sides a little. If she is a little short for her age, then I would go for the Small.
HTH's
-- Edited on 1/15/13 6:13 AM --

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Jenny, Perth, WA

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Date: 1/16/13 10:34 AM

I think the problem I encountered was that the measurements at the top of the pattern turned out to be the same as the ones on the tissue. I made the jammies based on the measurements at the top.

I hope these fit.

must have been a misprint - hopefully.

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Date: 1/16/13 4:08 PM

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must have been a misprint - hopefully.

That's what I thought you were saying. Unfortunately, it does happen, hence my suggestion to measure the pattern itself. Hope I didn't confuse you!
As for girls sizes in general, I've been scratching my head lately myself. I just finished a McCall's top today for girls size 10 and slimmed it down considerably in circumference. I don't know why it was drafted so big, given it was designed for knit fabric. Also, the distance between the shoulder and bottom of armhole was much too long, though overall length was spot on. It was as though it was drafted for a misses backwaist measurement rather than the child's backwaist measurement on their sizing charts.
Hope your project turned out well.
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