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Singer 401A or 500A
Cabinet opening dimensions
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Date: 1/23/13 10:08 AM

So I've decided to buy a Singer 401A or 500A - I'm searching thrift stores, watching Craigslist, ebay, etc. I also want to get a cabinet for it. Does anyone know the cabinet opening dimensions, so if I find a cabinet with no machine, or with a different model Singer, I can know whether the 401 or 500 will fit?

Also, I read somewhere that the same cabinet fits other Singer models, like the 66, 15-91, 99, 201. Is this correct, and are there any other models I can watch for (if they're in a cabinet?)

Thanks so much.

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Date: 1/23/13 11:14 AM

My 401's footprint is 7" x 16 1/2"; the opening on both my cabinets is just slightly larger - about an 1/8" on either side. I have both the Parklane and Monticello cabinets, both with 401's in them.

The mount spacing is 9 3/4" wide - center to center. So looking straight at the front of the machine, on the backside from left to right: 2 1/2" - screw hole/mounting bracket - 9 3/4" - screw hole/mounting bracket - 4 1/4".

I hope this helps!

*Edit to add - I forgot to mention, don't forego a 403 if you come across it. It's every bit as good as the 401's; just make sure it has cam #0 with it.
-- Edited on 1/23/13 11:17 AM --

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Date: 1/23/13 11:43 AM

Thank you so much for taking the time to measure your cabinets for me - this is exactly what I need to know. I'll keep my eyes open for a 403 as well.

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Date: 1/23/13 12:50 PM

You can check the ISMACS International page for desks that were made for different models as a reference.

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Date: 1/25/13 4:29 PM

My 401 is in a blonde 50s nondescript cabinet table maybe a cosmopolitan not sure. Whenever I could find othat model online in a cabinet to look at I felt a bit better about my ability to choose a good match. Even so dh removed that hinged black piece with the spring to the right of the opening so the 401 would fit. I found mine online for sale without the machine and it was described as a cabinet a 401 came out of (don't think it did as they would have removed the black piece already). I bought two empty cabinets on ebay and the matching stools at different times for my 201 and my 401. I don't live in an area where there is a lot of sewing machine turnover so had them shipped. The guy who sold both of them did a super job of packaging and was reasonable on the shipping which can be all over the place. Maybe not for everyone but I think I would still be looking for cabinets if I hadn't gone this route. I did try prior to going online but wasn't having any luck and I really really like a sewing machine to be mounted into a cabinet. The matching stools and the machines came from other sellers so I felt really lucky that it all worked out. I did do a lot of research and question asking before I put the new old sewing machine babies with their new old cabinets.

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Subject: Singer 401A or 457 Cabinet fittings Date: 3/16/15 11:24 AM

I'm hopeful someone with knowledge can advise. Gryffin2007, you seem to have a working knowledge of the 401a cabinet. I have a 401 and have found a reasonable 457 cabinet with machine - not so much interested in the machine, but the cabinet. Unfortunately its about 3 hours away and I cannot just drop everything to run over there.

The question is do you believe the 401a may fit in the 457 cabinet?

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Date: 3/16/15 1:03 PM

As long as you know a Singer 401 has no holes and set screws in the back leading edge of it ,in the metal back side of it, for the pegs of any cabinet to even go into and hold the machine in there. So any cabinet you want to use with it that works with metal swing down pegs that way, you need a additional whole another item to make that happen too. It's called a 401 cradle, and it's a special metal brace and basket that attaches onto the bottom of the machine, and then the post holes for a cabinet are in that part instead. But if you had the 401 cradle thingie too, I think it would fit in a lot of cabinets that way most likely.

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Date: 3/16/15 1:08 PM

I put my 503A in a cabinet meant for a 201-2. I removed the metal piece, droped the drip pan down in the back and shaved part of the lip in the front off. Works fine.

The 401, if not mistaken, is a bit shorter. It should have the place for the hinges on it too. Mine is in an Art Deco cabinet and it fits perfectly.

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Date: 3/16/15 2:15 PM

My 401 does has the holes and set screws. Perhaps it is the 301 you are thinking of? I believe that one does need the cradle.

I have been able to put a 401, a 500, Singer 15-91 and Singer 201 in the same cabinet. The 15-91 and the 201 are a bit shorter but the holes on the machine match up to the hinges on the cabinet and that is the important part.
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Date: 3/17/15 8:17 AM

I found a cabinet that was for a Singer touch and sew and it works perfect for my 500A rocketeer..

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