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Going to BabyLock and Janome dealer today.
Eventually going to 2 machines total. SM and Evo. ? SM
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Date: 2/7/13 11:22 AM

I have decided on trying out the Sofia And the BL9.

Embroidery looks like the children would love it, not 100% certain I have the patience for it though. It appears to handle large sewing projects well. Unsure it's ability on denim, which is a deal breaker/maker.

BL9 seems more like a work horse, if its stitch is perfect I think for the money it's a great machine. But will it take all babylock feet? I have access to a TOL embroidery machine via my MIL, but it makes me nervous using her baby.

I know nothing about Janome.



Chosen machine must perform well on tough projects, like denim and quilts. But I expect hassles w knits. I have a serger and coverhem. When I finish this degree next yr I *am* getting an Evolution and moving to a 2 machine world.

I will be taking both of my children 3 and 2. 2 yo old my back and 3 yo loves sewing, it will be okay, but it won't be an hour stop and shop. :)

Looking for any advice or thoughts.
I very much want to buy from this dealer, btw.
TIA.

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Date: 2/7/13 5:27 PM

The Sofia is a small machine. I looked at it, but was not looking for an embroidery machine. I looked at everything a year ago and decided on a Janome 6600. It is a sewing only machine with lots of bells and whistles. I don't think Janome makes an similar sewing/embroidery machine in that price range. You shouldn't expect hassles sewing knit fabrics with any modern machine. My Janome sews them nicely. That was one of the requirements for any machine I purchased as my old Kenmore purchases in 1980 refused to sew knits of any kind. I remember having to tke my children around with me when they were that age-that is going to limit your time I am sure!

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Date: 2/8/13 5:58 AM

My BL9 takes all my Ellisimo feet. They are wider but they fit.
I take my BL9 to classes and got tired of grabbing feet and not having them at the ready. I discovered a few weeks ago on PR, the Pfaff bi-level top stitching foot. I got the adaptor for the BL9 and the bi level foot and was hooked on Pfaff feet.
So I now leave the Pfaff shank adaptor on the BL9 and am collecting the Pfaff basic feet. They are super east to snap on, and the metal is, to me, better than the BL snap feet. Pfaff has some great garment focused feet, providing great visibility with secure fabric management- similiar to the BL J foot.
I also considered the sophia but since I have a combo, I would not use the embroidery.
I liked the Grace too but really wanted a manual workhorse machine. One I never worried about computer issues of timing and boards and seeing that tiny screen for stitches and turning off power and losing stitch settings.
I just used the BL9 to edge stitch 2 pieces of rubberized slip mat together (the open weave kind to keep rugs from shifting). I didn't want to unscrew and put on the BL teflon foot so I used the Pfaff standard foot. It fed through, no problems. I did a layered tote bag, nice job. I have the Pfaff zipper foot and teflon foot on order and will be doing some leather wallets when they arrive. I haven't tried buttonholes. They are manual and I would probably use my Ellisimo- just easier. Except perhaps if oversize on coating type fabric.
But the Sophia is a very nice combo machine if you think you want to get into embroidery. My BL dealer uses that when she travels.

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Date: 2/8/13 9:28 AM

Aren't the Pfaff bi-level feet too fabulous??! I love mine! By the way in case you weren't aware, there are two; one is left-side the other right-side, so you don't have to flip your garment around. With changing the bi-level feet all the seams can be sewn in the same direction.

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Date: 2/8/13 11:40 AM

Not to sound stupid but what is exactly a bi-level foot?

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Date: 2/8/13 12:20 PM

Thank you for the info!!
I bought Sofia2!
Headed to my all things sewing (well all things everything) mentor/mother in laws house to check her out more! :). I'll update my dealer experience later.

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Date: 2/8/13 2:34 PM

If you are top stitching and the adjoining fabric at the seam is on a different level the regular top stitching foot can cantor off to one side. The bi level has one side underneath built up to compensate and remain level. Also good for hemming jeans I would suspect. The hem can be a lot higher up then the pant leg fabric. I havent used it yet but DGS's BD is April so I need to get started on the jeans soon. Hes a plus size and hard to fit.

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Date: 2/8/13 8:14 PM

We went to the Babylock dealer first. I had seen the Sofia on the website, but had convinced myself that I was getting the BL9. It is the perfect machine for me right now. I thought this dealer sold Janome too, but he didn't.
I walked in and the Sofia was doing a butterfly. My daughter became quite engulfed in this process. We sat down at the table, and I didn't get up for 2 hours. The dealer sat there with me. The children were very good. I didn't even sew on the other machine! By the time I realized how long I had been sitting there the kids were fussy, and hungry.
I really wanted that machine, right then, and he offered a great deal on it.
I drove to another dealer an hour away that is a Juki, Brother, Janome dealer. I was not impressed. I have used this dealer to buy and service my machines in the past. And they have a great online store. But the machines were too close together, they offered a stiff woven to try on, and they didn't love the idea of my own fabric. She was less than pleased that the children were there, it was quite apparent. I had to ask for my own chair.
We went to a Brother first, it looked like a Walmart machine, and it felt like one, and it was loud a clunky like my old Singer from Walmart.
The next machine was a Janome Memory Craft. At this point I sat down, and was reminded of Sofia. All the digital touchscreens and such showing me what I was doing. The Janome didn't have that, although it was computerized. I didn't like it, but figured I'd give it a go.
She walked away to help a customer and if she told me I did not hear her say she was going. I went to the zig zag. It was ok, but it jammed.
I moved over the the Juki f600, she turned it on, and...I was sold- on the Babylock.
I went to the other dealer, the Janome/Brother dealer because I was worried that the BL just sewed like all higher end machines. I have only been on one highend machine in my life, and it was for literally a few minutes. I was content with my choice at that point and excused myself.
When I went to pick up the machine today at BL there was a small table that had been cleared. He asked where the children were, and motioned to the table.
I was pretty happy I came there.
The only potential problem I see here, is that the front desk lady doesn't always let people get the dealer, she seems like a gate keeper. Although when I bought my serger she was very nice and gave me a good lesson.

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Date: 2/8/13 9:05 PM

Just wondering...did you get to try the Juki? You said when she turned it on you decided on the BabyLock at that point.

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Date: 2/8/13 10:11 PM

That's the kind of weird part, she did the sewing. I asked to see on the Janome. I never sewed on her. Maybe afraid I would like it
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I think if my dealer hah had the Juki I would have considered it more. I'm not gonna lie, the BL name does give me comfort. For whatever reason having the Jukis on HSN and such make me nervous. Perhaps it's bc we are used to seeing TOLs only in dealers?? She also said it was for quilters. I had decided against this dealer by this point. The money was a huge thing too.
$550 for Sofia total, and $799 pretax for the Juki.
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