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Date: 2/16/13 9:12 AM

just watched the video on the NY Times website about Fashion Week in New York. All but one of the designers (Diane V. F.) they showcased were men.

Maybe that's why I so rarely like any of the clothes I see at these fashion shows. I know we have lots of young sewers on this website. Get famous! Make classy clothes we would all be happy to wear!

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Date: 2/16/13 10:46 AM

I have wondered the same thing. Probably this is why all the clothes are only going to look good on a women with little to no bust (imo)

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Date: 2/16/13 11:31 AM

Maybe its because us women are not going to design and sew clothing and then sell it.. Which goes along with the thought that no way will I sew for others..

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Date: 2/16/13 11:58 AM

Women cry too much????

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Date: 2/16/13 12:28 PM

remember the guys on project runway who were upset when their models had boobs. the men design for impossible figures, women must look in the mirror occasionally and say 'not going to happen'

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Date: 2/16/13 3:28 PM

the pr designers are under impossible time constraints, and it takes time to draft or drape for a model with boobs, particulary when they are so prominent that the judges' eyes will be drawn to the fit of the bodice. Note that the models only come in for a couple of hours, tops.

PR is also edited to distort the process. It may make for great television, but as a documentary, it falls flat.

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Date: 2/16/13 3:53 PM

Men tend to put themselves forward a lot more than women. I have worked in environments that are mostly female, but when someone needs to get up and speak in front of the group, it is VERY disproportionately men. Ditto with promotions positions. I have also worked in environments with mostly men, and the women fade even further in the background or stay away altogether if they can.

The evolutionary explanation is that men's role in propagating their genes is much more high stakes than women's. Women will have babies, but the number is limited by nature. A successful man can father hundreds of children, an unsuccessful man none. This leads to high risk behaviour being built into men. (Testosterone comes to mind here.)

High risk behaviour will lead to spectacular successes In some and spectacular failures in others. Women are generally clustered around the mean, while men are spread much more widely, inhabiting both extremes. You find many more men at the top, but also at the bottom.

All that said, i know my body and what suits it. Sewing for others is a gamble and i avoid it because i think they could well end up disappointed. With men, if they like women's clothes enough to want to design them, they need to design for others in the first place, not themselves. Unless they like to cross dress of course.

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Date: 2/16/13 4:50 PM

Maybe most of them don't sew? I'm trying to decide if I'm joking or serious lol. I thought I read somewhere that Christian Dior would draw and design but did not sew. That leaves the really tough stuff to us women. (Tongue in cheek humor here.)

Personally, I classify a brilliant designer as one who does both and also understands the complexities of the female shape. Kenneth King comes to mind, and IMO, he is a brilliant designer by my definition.

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The evolutionary explanation is that men's role in propagating their genes is much more high stakes than women's. Women will have babies, but the number is limited by nature. A successful man can father hundreds of children, an unsuccessful man none. This leads to high risk behaviour being built into men. (Testosterone comes to mind here.)


That is a good biological explanation. You can see that spotlight-hogging behavior in many, many non-human species, too, as in this astounding video courtesy of David Attenborough.

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Date: 2/16/13 7:56 PM

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just watched the video on the NY Times website about Fashion Week in New York. All but one of the designers (Diane V. F.) they showcased were men.

This video?
from Gray to Technicolor

Perhaps the other designers didn't fit the theme of this particular essay as well as the ones who were featured. The New York Times is enthusiastic when it comes to fashion coverage--and several female designers are covered in other videos and reviews.

The reporters who work on this beat are critics, not transcriptionists, so perhaps the male designers, on average, made more of an impression.
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