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Date: 2/25/13 2:35 PM

So my long story short, I ended up with 2 sergers - An Imagine and an Eclipse with Jet-Air Threading. My plan was to sell the Imagine and use that money to purchase a new, updated serger, like the Enlighten. In the meantime, I've been using the Eclipse and have really enjoyed it. The Imagine sold and now I'm trying to figure out what to do.

My dilemna is two part. First, is it REALLY worth it to have the auto-tension? I initially was worried about not being able to adjust the tension myself, but it seems like anyone and everyone who has an Imagine or Enlighten LOVE the auto tension. I don't mind too much adjusting the tension, but I am a beginner serger, so I haven't really been in the throws of serging just yet. I'm thinking that when I start to do a lot of serging, not having to fiddle with tensions might be convenient. But I'm picky and I wouldn't mind having the ability to really fine tune the stitches. Auto tension is great, but not having ANY tension dials on the Imagine and Enlighten makes me a tad hesitant.

The second part of my dilemna (assuming I go with the auto-tension models) Imagine or Enlighten? I've pretty much been sold on the Enlighten but got to thinking if I really will use the wave stitch. Aside from the lighting and the whiter cover, are there any other signficant differences and is it worth the extra amount from the Imagine?

One thing I definitely decided is a separate cover stitch machine. I saw the Evolution and I believe LynnRowe mentioned that the Enlighten has a tighter turning radius and smalerl feet. Thank you Lynn for pointing that out! This weekend, when I was at my dealer's, I could totally see the difference in the feet and I do like the smaller foot width.

If anyone can help me out, I'd appreciate it! My dealer lent me the Babylock Serger Attachment Inspirational Guide (as well as the Enlighten book) and I cannot believe all the things you can do with a serger!

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Date: 2/25/13 4:09 PM

I'd take a BL Enlighten over anything in the serger world.

Except I already have a BL Enlighten. And NOBODY is getting mine away from me, EVER!

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Date: 2/25/13 5:06 PM

What did you like specifically about the Enlighten that the Imagine didn't have?

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Date: 2/25/13 6:32 PM

I think it's mostly the lighting and the wave stitch. Some of the threading technology has been updated too, I think. When I mentioned that I own an Imagine to a Babylock staffer at Puyallup last year, she said that she couldn't see any reason to trade up. I use mine all the time and haven't missed the wave stitch. YMMV of course. If lighting is an issue for you, you might get a Bendable bright light or similar stick on lamp to help.

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Date: 2/25/13 6:57 PM

Superb lighting. It also has improved threading (can do all threads at same time, rather than one at a time), a whiter housing, and a tighter turning radius (knives placed closer to the feed dog area), and of course the Wave stitch.

For me, the superb lighting was enough to make me snap one up the minute they arrived at my BL dealer's. The world is ageing, and getting darker.

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And Baby (Enlighten serger), Victor (BLCS), Ash (B350SE-Artwork), Kee (B750QEE-Panzy's BFF), Georgie (B560-Kee's baby sister) and the Feather-Flock!

Most of all, I heart Woo (HimmyCat). Until we meet again, my beautiful little boy. I love you.

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Date: 2/25/13 8:41 PM

That's right.....I forgot that the Imagine has Jet-Air threading and the Enlighten has Extrodinaire. I'd be fine with either, really, but I do like the fact it has the brighter light and the whiter housing. The tighter turning radius is good since I make children's clothing and I get some tight turns in there.

I'm going to see what my dealer can do if I DON'T finance. I'm thinking I might be able to get the Enlighten, plus some workbooks and feet, for a good price if I'm not financing. I figure the dealer won't have to count the amount he has to pay for financing and hoping he will pass that savings to me.

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Date: 2/26/13 4:29 AM

Please dont let the lack of tension adjustment deter you ftom a BL. The auto tension is accomplished when you turn dial to A, B, C, (and D for CS on my Evolution). That dials in the tension *automatically* adjusting it for 1, 2, or 3 threads. Then there is the presser foot adjustment that you can tweak between wovens, knits, or bulky layers. It also has a fine tune +/- adjustment for the left and right needle thread tensions and because I have a CS, mine has another thread tension adjustment for those 3 needles.
So I would say BL sergers provide you with ways to tweak tensions but for the most part it is self adjusting. You never have to spend time with individual tension dials on each thread to get a winning combination.
I have had mine for 3 years now. At my first Mastery Class the educator tweaked my +/- and I haven't had to touch it since. The only other tweak I needed was to to adjust the presser foot pressure between bulky and single layer fabrics.
I sometimes wish I had the narrower foot but I do love the ability to CS.
-- Edited on 2/26/13 4:41 AM --

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Date: 2/26/13 12:52 PM

I bought an Enlighten a few months ago and really enjoy it. It was an upgrade from a babylock I'd had for years, and the threading feature is what brought me to the Enlighten. I haven't used the wave stitch yet, so I don't know if I'll like that or not. I have used the rolled hem to make a few silk scarves, and it's worked well. The only thing I wish it had is a free arm - my old, much cheaper bl had that feature, and I used it quite a lot. If I recall, the next model up has 5 threads. I didn't get that one because I couldn't think when I'd need to serge with 5 threads - I mostly use 3. Enlighten is very nice indeed!

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Date: 2/26/13 1:30 PM

Thanks for the input, SandiMac....I'm definitely set on getting a Babylock, that's for sure. So the tension thing isn't really swaying me from BL, but I just wanted to take a consensus if most people are happy with it. From what I've read, almost everyone says it is spot on.

Okay, well I think I'm going to contact my dealer today and see what we can work out on an Enlighten. Can't believe I'm going to spend this much, but I figure this one will last me a very, very long time. :)

Jim

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Date: 2/26/13 6:44 PM

I have the Enlighten and absolutely love the auto tension. It is so ridiculously easy to use. I smile every time the loopers thread themselves. Great lighting and beautiful serged seams and rolled hems! LOVE IT!

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