Sewing Patterns, Pattern Review, Sewing Classes, Sewing Machines and Sewing Machine Reviews!
Platinum Sponsor: Stylish Fabric
Over 20,000 of high quality reorderable fabric

[SIGNUP - FREE Membership & 1 FREE Sewing Lesson ]
[Sewing Classes|Shopping Bag Your Shopping Bag|Login|Help]
Sewing Review and Pattern Reviews Sewing Knowledge Base Sewing Patterns Sewing Classes & Sewing Lessons Sewing Machine & Embroidery Machinery Sewing Message Boards Sewing merchants Blog Help/FAQ About Pattern Review
Enter your e-mail address:




Advanced Search
Tags
New to PR?
Sewing Machines
Compare Sewing Machines
Sewing Machine & Serger Reviews
Embroidery Machines
Sewing Reviews
Sewing Patterns
Review Gallery
Sewing Books
Sewing Supplies
Sewing Websites
Sewing Stores
Sewing Class Reviews
Sewing Expo Reviews
Sewing Tips & Techniques
Sewing Podcasts
NEW!Fabric Glossary
Sewing Review Requests Add a Review Request
Your Account
Edit Profile
My Page
Favorites
Wish List
Pattern Catalog
Notifications
Friends of PR
Join Friends of PR
Find a member
Deal Corner
Photo Album
Calendar
Chat Room
Chat Schedule
Chat Transcripts
Sewing Classifieds
Add a Classified
Sewing Contests
enter contest
contest report
contest gallery
Favorite Links
reviews with comments
merchant gallery
article archive
newsletter archive
Craft Resources
contact info
shipping rates
returns & refunds
testimonials

Platinum Sponsor - Stylish Fabric
Stylish Fabric
You are not logged in. Login here.



Message Board > Fitting Woes > Me Again - Pants Fitting ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
Go to Page:
Me Again - Pants Fitting
Simplicity 2700
MrsCharisma
starstarstar
MrsCharisma  Friend of PR
Advanced Beginner
MN USA
Member since 2/1/13
Posts: 2328
Login to reply to this post

Date: 2/26/13 11:20 PM

I've made 3 partial muslins and I think #3 is worth making a full muslin out of (especially since this material is super thin).

Version 1

For Version 1, I cut a straight 18 average. Way too tight - everywhere.

Version 2

For Version 2, I cut a straight 18 curvy. Too saggy in the crotch and hips.

Version 3

For Version 3, I Frankensteined the pattern. I think I'm ready to make a full muslin with this one. I might have to reduce that SA a bit through the thigh, but otherwise, it felt pretty good on.

Suggestions on those horizontal lines? I want to get them as close to perfect as possible, but won't kill myself to do so either. If I made a pair that felt as good as this mini-muslin did and those wrinkles/lines were present I wouldn't be sad :)

------
Nakisha
www.sewcraftychemist.blogspot.com
Singer Talent 3321 | Brother 1034D

My Big 4 Sizing: Medium | Tops 14/16 | Pants 18 | Skirts 16/18.

My Measurements: 36 HB | 38.5 FB | 34 W | 44 Hip

starryfish
star
starryfish  Friend of PR
Intermediate
UNITED KINGDOM
Member since 8/10/09
Posts: 194
Login to reply to this post

Date: 2/27/13 6:44 AM

comment removed by poster
-- Edited on 2/27/13 6:46 AM --

------
Goals for 2013
Perfect my TNT Trousers

Read my blog http://starryfishathome.wordpress.com

MNBarb
starstarstarstar
MNBarb  Friend of PR
Intermediate
MN USA
Member since 4/3/10
Posts: 1536
Login to reply to this post

thumbsup 2 members like this.
Date: 2/27/13 8:34 AM

A good start for a muslin. You might want to make up the last pair with a one inch SA for fitting purposes. You will need to make them long to determine the fit. Lots happens when you add the legs.

------
Barb
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Thomas Edison
"I not only use all the brains I have, but all I can borrow." Woodrow Wilson

arianamaniacs
starstarstarstar
arianamaniacs  Friend of PR
Advanced
AUSTRIA
Member since 6/11/04
Posts: 1108
Login to reply to this post

thumbsup 2 members like this.
Date: 2/27/13 10:29 AM

Those horizontal lines may be due to a short front crotch length. This can happen if you have a bubble-butt syndrome (like me), or if your waistline tends to tilt forward (also like me), meaning that my waistline is not parallel to the floor when I'm standing straight. The back of the waistline is 1 inch higher than my front waistline.

Check out this Sure-fit designs video. At the end she does an example of how to change the front length.

simplystitches
simplystitches
NY USA
Member since 2/12/06
Posts: 1096
Login to reply to this post

In reply to MrsCharisma <<
thumbsup 2 members like this.


Date: 2/27/13 11:15 AM

Most of those horizontal wrinkles are because they're too tight across the mid section and hips. Notice how the plaid is pulling towards the side seam and also traveling upwards? That should all be straight and level.

Debbie

MrsCharisma
starstarstar
MrsCharisma  Friend of PR
Advanced Beginner
MN USA
Member since 2/1/13
Posts: 2328
Login to reply to this post

Date: 2/27/13 12:07 PM

I sewed these with a 1" SA (so that's 4" available through the hip area, correct??). Will that help?

I bought "real" muslin material yesterday and plan to sew up a full pair this week.

What can I leave off of the muslin, if anything? Should I go all the way, zipper, waistband, pockets, etc? Or can I just do the full pant length and be ok?

------
Nakisha
www.sewcraftychemist.blogspot.com
Singer Talent 3321 | Brother 1034D

My Big 4 Sizing: Medium | Tops 14/16 | Pants 18 | Skirts 16/18.

My Measurements: 36 HB | 38.5 FB | 34 W | 44 Hip

MrsCharisma
starstarstar
MrsCharisma  Friend of PR
Advanced Beginner
MN USA
Member since 2/1/13
Posts: 2328
Login to reply to this post

In reply to arianamaniacs <<


Date: 2/27/13 12:13 PM

Quote: arianamaniacs
Those horizontal lines may be due to a short front crotch length. This can happen if you have a bubble-butt syndrome (like me), or if your waistline tends to tilt forward (also like me), meaning that my waistline is not parallel to the floor when I'm standing straight. The back of the waistline is 1 inch higher than my front waistline.



Check out this Sure-fit designs video. At the end she does an example of how to change the front length.

Interesting!

How I came up with this sizing, I took out my very best pair of RTW, which fit really well. Whenever I buy rtw slacks and jeans I end up getting them tailored. The crotch (length?) of the rtw was 26" (10" of front crotch and 16" of back). This of course is the finished item. The pattern had a 23" or 24" length.

I ended up cutting a 18 and grading out the crotch length to a size 22 in front and size 20 in back. I was pleased with how this changed the fit.

------
Nakisha
www.sewcraftychemist.blogspot.com
Singer Talent 3321 | Brother 1034D

My Big 4 Sizing: Medium | Tops 14/16 | Pants 18 | Skirts 16/18.

My Measurements: 36 HB | 38.5 FB | 34 W | 44 Hip

Nancy K
starstarstar
Nancy K
Advanced
NY USA
Member since 12/28/04
Posts: 8070
Login to reply to this post

In reply to MrsCharisma <<
thumbsup 1 member likes this.


Date: 2/27/13 1:38 PM

The horizontal lines tell me that it's too tight. I also think that you need a tad bit more length in the front rise. You haven't posted back photos yet, but I'd be interested in seeing them as well.

------
www.nancyksews.blogspot.com

Nancy K
starstarstar
Nancy K
Advanced
NY USA
Member since 12/28/04
Posts: 8070
Login to reply to this post

In reply to MrsCharisma <<


Date: 2/27/13 1:43 PM

All details should be left off the muslin. No pockets, put in a zipper without making it a fly front, just slam it in to quote Kenneth King.
You should mark mid hip front and back and the grainlines on all of the pieces. Make sure that they are visible from the right side. You can machine baste them. You should make your waist seams 1" wide and mark them as well. You can use a 1" elastic to mark your waist line, and then sew on a waistband. Make sure that you stay stitch your waistline so that it doesn't stretch out with fittings. I'd also add a little more to the side seams since these are so tight.
Sorry I didn't say it earlier, but these are great for a third muslin. You've figured out a lot already.
-- Edited on 2/27/13 1:44 PM --

------
www.nancyksews.blogspot.com

MrsCharisma
starstarstar
MrsCharisma  Friend of PR
Advanced Beginner
MN USA
Member since 2/1/13
Posts: 2328
Login to reply to this post

In reply to Nancy K <<


Date: 2/27/13 2:21 PM

Quote: Nancy K
All details should be left off the muslin. No pockets, put in a zipper without making it a fly front, just slam it in to quote Kenneth King.

You should mark mid hip front and back and the grainlines on all of the pieces. Make sure that they are visible from the right side. You can machine baste them. You should make your waist seams 1" wide and mark them as well. You can use a 1" elastic to mark your waist line, and then sew on a waistband. Make sure that you stay stitch your waistline so that it doesn't stretch out with fittings. I'd also add a little more to the side seams since these are so tight.

Sorry I didn't say it earlier, but these are great for a third muslin. You've figured out a lot already.
-- Edited on 2/27/13 1:44 PM --

Thanks Nancy!

Should I have noticed markings on the pattern to indicate where mid hip is?

When you say add to the side seam...do you mean let out my current 1" side seams or when I trace the pattern onto the new muslin, add additional side seams?

Thanks again :)

------
Nakisha
www.sewcraftychemist.blogspot.com
Singer Talent 3321 | Brother 1034D

My Big 4 Sizing: Medium | Tops 14/16 | Pants 18 | Skirts 16/18.

My Measurements: 36 HB | 38.5 FB | 34 W | 44 Hip

Go to Page:
Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com. If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Post button to report it. Fitting Woes >> Me Again - Pants Fitting

Merchants on PR
Fitz Like a Glove Ironing Board Cover
Made In Australia
Deals!
SewBaby
Unique Sewing Patterns
Deals!
Budo Bear Designs
Asian Designs
Web site
Patterns from the Past
vintage sewing patterns
Deals!
Elliott Berman Textiles
Fabrics for Greater Ideas
Deals!

Copyright © 2014 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.
Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Online Sewing Classes
Expert Sewing Techniques for Jackets
Fee: $34.00
(Regular $49.00)
Expert Sewing Techniques for Jackets

Online Sewing Classes
Serging Ahead with your 5 Thread Serger
Fee: $29.00
(Regular $49.00)
Serging Ahead with your 5 Thread Serger

Oliver + S LC002WS
photo
Review by wenznz on 7/20/13
Read Review

Peek-A Boo Skater Shoes Digital Pattern ( Size 0 mo -18 mo )
Peek-A Boo Skater Shoes Digital Pattern ( Size 0 mo -18 mo )

Details
Price: $3.99
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Blank Slate TeeX3 Digital Pattern
Blank Slate TeeX3 Digital Pattern

Details
Price: $7.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

McCall's 5464
photo
Review by QuiltSewSe... on 2/20/09
Read Review

Favorite Things Little Nightie Night Pattern
Favorite Things Little Nightie Night Pattern

Details
Price: $14.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Sassy Bag
Sassy Bag

Details
Price: $8.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Kwik Sew 3500 Pattern
Kwik Sew 3500 Pattern

Details
Price: $11.49
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Burda 9471 Pattern
Burda 9471 Pattern

Details
Price: $11.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Subscribe to PR Message Board Feed Subscribe to the PR Message Board Feed Add to My Yahoo! Subscribe at NewsGator Online Subscribe at Bloglines Add to MyMSN