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Barbie26
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Date: 2/28/13 9:59 AM

Hello everyone. I am a newer sewer. I am looking at getting a combo (sewing & embroidery) machine. I want one that has at least a 5x7 hoop. I feel like going with a dealer may be the way to go because I could go to unlimited free classes and good support.

Yesterday I was at a dealer. She showed me the Babylock Ellure and the Ellure Plus as well as a used Janome 9700.

The prices she quoted me were:
Jamome 9700 for $999
For this she said I would have to purchase a card/converter and software, so I'm figuring adding at least $175 with embird? to this price.

Babylock Ellure for $1399, however she also told me I would have to purchase the software (said embird wouldn't work--must buy her software) for $250

Babylock Ellure Plus floor model for $1599--that software I talked about above is included here.

Obviously if I were to choose the floor model is the better deal of the two Babylocks, but is all of that software stuff true?

Also, what about the Jenome?

Thanks to anyone who can help!!
Barb

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Date: 2/28/13 10:33 AM

Please don't buy the Janome 9700. It is a discontinued machine and old technology. Janome is coming out with a new machine March 1, a combo that has larger hoops than the 9700. From what I could find the hoop sizes on the new machine will be 6.7 x 7.9 and 5.5 x 5.5. But, I am sure it won't be cheap.

I don't own a Brother/Babylock so cannot comment on those or the models you mention.

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Date: 2/28/13 11:13 AM

Find another dealer. She is trying to sell you old stuff so she can get rid of it. Old stuff=old technology. Embird will work with any machine, it's the formats you have to worry about and the only one I think it won't work with is Bernina but I could be wrong on that. Educate yourself before walking into a dealer. Read this board and others and visit the machine sites online to find out what the most up to date machines are out there. And decide what you want to spend. You want to buy as current as possible.

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Date: 2/28/13 11:17 AM

The next closest dealer is 1.5 hours away. I have called them all--none seem any better than her!!! Lucky, I know.

Is the Ellure Plus considered current technology with the USB? I thought it was, but ?

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Date: 2/28/13 4:16 PM

Ok as long as it's the Ellure Plus it's not a bad machine. You don't need the expensive software, Embird should work. Not a bad price for that machine. It's pretty basic though. If you can spend more money I could consider spending it. Depending on where you want to go with embroidery. Have you considered any other brand of machine? Plus sit down and sew on it, you may not like the way the babylock sews. The babylock Ellure has no way to connect to the internet go download free and purchased designs without having to buy a $250 box to write to a card specificly to that machine if you can find one. It's old tech. If you give us a budget we could better suggest.
-- Edited on 2/28/13 4:19 PM --

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Date: 2/28/13 4:33 PM

I agree with Sewing Wolf - find another dealer. The only combo I know of that requires software is Singer Futura and then maybe not all models.

Modern technology has allowed EM manufactures to include USB connectivity to their newer models or higher end models so there is no need for cards, readers or special software.

Maybe you misunderstood about all the extra software being included with the Ellure Plus. It has the USB connectivity and does not need anything else.

And, Embird is compatible with all home embroidery machine formats.

My dealer is far, far away....in another state....I have to cross two rivers (not like Huck Finn)...but all in all it takes about the same amout of time.

Take the time to visit that dealer and have a face-to-face. They are much different in person and even more so if you happen to catch them at an Expo where they are on their best, "Sunday to to meeting" behavior.

I had to revisit just once after the initial sale. If you do the suggested maintenance per the manual annual visits are not necessary. I have a babylock Ellegante, but started with a Brother PE150 and reader/writer/memory card.


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Date: 2/28/13 5:41 PM

What are current combos in the $3500 range?

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Date: 2/28/13 5:51 PM

I just looked up the spec sheet on the Ellure Plus (BLR2) and it says that it takes cards and USB type B. USB type A is what we normally use as a thumb drive on computers so I believe in order to get designs from the computer to your machine you will have to have them connected or use cards.
As far as the software I would ask why you need it, is it editing software? I would think any card software and box system would work but I'm honestly not sure (I have USB type A on my Ellageo Plus (as well as card and USB type B which I've not used))

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Date: 2/28/13 6:17 PM

Have you read a lot of what has been written here about embroidery and sewing? Many prefer two separate machines (you might save money as well) since you cannot sew at the same time as you embroider but you have to hang around anyway.
My dream is a 5x7 Brother pc700 for under $600 (see Amazon.com) that takes a flash drive and use a separate sewing machine so I could sew nearby while keeping an eye or ear out for the embroidery machine.
-- Edited on 2/28/13 6:19 PM --

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Date: 2/28/13 6:34 PM

Quote: TammyAnn
I just looked up the spec sheet on the Ellure Plus (BLR2) and it says that it takes cards and USB type B. USB type A is what we normally use as a thumb drive on computers so I believe in order to get designs from the computer to your machine you will have to have them connected or use cards.

As far as the software I would ask why you need it, is it editing software? I would think any card software and box system would work but I'm honestly not sure (I have USB type A on my Ellageo Plus (as well as card and USB type B which I've not used))

Okay, that A/B USB stuff I didn't realize. Just to make sure I understand, I could transfer designs if connected by a cable from my laptop to the Ellure? Also, on Amazon they sell a $4 adapter: http://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-Female-Male-Adapter/dp/B000AA2SMS. Would that work?

Sorry for the stupid questions, just trying to make sure I get it!

Barb
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