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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Separate machines? ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Date: 3/28/13 4:37 PM

I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but hey, it's hot outside and I'm tired of mowing the grass I've dug out my old Brother 920D serger and got it running again, but haven't done much with it yet. I've been reading about separate coverstitch machines, and while it seems like a nifty thing to have, isn't there ANY serger with a coverstitch that's fairly easy to switch to? I'm limited as to space and don't really know how much I'd use a separate machine, but I'd like to do the nice hems.
And if I decide on a separate machine, what brand/model would you recommend for under $500 (and I don't mind used)
Thanks....back to the yard!

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Date: 3/29/13 11:28 AM

I, too, would love to have the answer to that question. I have a great Janome 4 thread serger, but no coverstitch. Although I like my sewing machine in general, I'm very unhappy with the results of producing hems on knits. Nice to hear you have grass to mow--we're just mowing weeds at this point. They do look nice, however, against our roses and hibiscus! I had to send a picture of them to our kids in Missouri who are dealing with 8" of snow!

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Date: 3/29/13 12:24 PM

I love those Janome coverpros. The bigger surface area makes me want to use them for more than just hemming, i.e. decorative stitching since you can get the fabric under the arm. I don't know why some have had issues others completely problem free, I had the 900 then 1000 and friend with a 1000cpx also never had a single challenge. Easy to thread. The 900 only has one stitch but you can easily get it new for 399 through online dealers.

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Date: 3/29/13 12:50 PM

I'm currently considering purchasing the Babylock Diana which is a serger and coverstitch machine. It is priced at $599 on the BL website as part of the spring promo. It does not have jet-air threading but it was easier to than my previous entry level serger. It has automatic tension that your able to override if you prefer. I have not looked at other combo machines so I do not know how the conversion from overlock to coverstitch compares to others. There is a higher end Babylock that does both but it was not within my budget so I chose to not even look at it (I'm sure I would've loved it and then been less happy with the machine I could afford...why torture myself:).

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Date: 3/29/13 3:38 PM

Combo verses 2 separate machines...sometimes it's not about how easy it's to thread or even how easy it converts.

I have a Singer QuantumLock 14T957DC: it's opening for cover stitch is 3 5/8", and only 2 5/8" high. Not much room for in garment decorative sewing. The machine bed area isn't flat because it's a combo machine. This machine has a 5 thread stitch and was originaly going to replace an old White serger. For this combo there's no Singer (New Husky, Pfaff and Babylock Diana take same feet) binder foot. I find it dosn't have as much power as my White. It also tends to push hems wonky when sewing over side seams. The fact it can do a 3 thread cover stitch keeps it around.

Janome Coverpro has 5 5/8" of work space and almost 4" of height. This model is the 2 needle machine so 5 mm cover stitch and chain stitch. I love the elastic feet that they have for this machine. The bed area is large, flat and has option of extension table and binder. Threading the chain looper is super easy. It's a strong machine with lots of power to sew over multiple hem layers with minimal effort. Schmetzs ELx705 CF size 11 solves skipping stitches even on thin slippery poly knits.

My Bernina Funlock has 2 3/8" space and 2 1/4" height. This machine's my smallest but I love the compansating foot for flat felt seams and necklines. This machine uses regular sewing machine needles.

Sew test machines to see how much control you have over seams, how easily it threads, changes over from serger to cover stitch and what attachements you may want. I have the space to set up a couple machines depending on the projects.

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Date: 3/29/13 9:49 PM

Hey, in my yard if it's green we call it grass! I'd love to have the beautiful St Augustine lawn my dad had, but as long as it's not mud or dust I can deal with it

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Date: 3/29/13 11:11 PM

Babylock's combo machines, Evolve and the replacement Evolution, are easy to switch between serging adn CS.

However...the feed dogs and feet are much larger than with their separate machines, due to the nature of the combo beast. This can make serging over intersecting seams and tight curves a lot more challenging than with separate machines.

As easy as they are to switch between, it drove me nuts doing so when I owned the BL Evolve. When constructing knit tops, I go from serging to CSing back to serging and finally back to CSing; easy to switch yes, but still a pain when you have to switch often.

Switching back and forth requires changing needle positions and rethreading. Again, it only takes a minute or two to do on BL machines, but it's still something I had to stop and do, and with separate machines, that's eliminated.

If your serging doesn't switch back and forth a lot during construction, you may find a combo machine to be the perfect solution.

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Date: 3/30/13 12:50 PM

In addition, if you have a separate coverstitch machine and are using both sewing/serging constructing your project, you will need additional thread or bobbins wound with your thread in order to move to the coverstitch machine. There is also the learning curve of yet another machine.

I sold my Babylock Evolve because I wanted a separate coverstitch machine. I purchased the Enlighten and the Coverpro 1000cpx. I still question if I made the right decision. If I could, I might just trade my Enlighten and Coverpro for the BL Evolution.

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Date: 3/30/13 1:59 PM

Separate machines. I recently made a baby nightgown mad cover stitched the turned neckline before assembling the rest of the gown on my serger. It was faster to use two different machines.

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Date: 3/30/13 2:39 PM

Timely discussion for me. I bought the BLCS to have a separate coverstitch. my serger is a bit old so I just bought the Enlighten on Thursday. The sales girl kept saying I wanted the Evolution and I could not figure why since I have the coverstitch machine as a separate machine and prefer it...both side by side and I literally whip from one to the other. Why would anyone want the BLCS and an Evolution...not Enlighten. As Lynn said the foot is a lot wider on the Evolution and going around corners is harder. I can still change my order but didn't I make the right decision? I actually went in to get the Bernina 1150 but my dealer said BabyLock just has so many patents that Bernina does not have ...even though Bernina is made by Juki and is a great machine...he just thought the BL is a better machine...(AND over twice the cost...but who's counting!) He(dealer) thought the BLCS and Enlighten were what I wanted but the sales girl kept going on and on and on and on about the Evolution!
All opinions welcome! BLCS and Evolution or BLCS and Enlighten?
BTW...I serge more than I sew therefore having a good serger is REALLY important to me.
PS Having separate machines is really good if you are sewing knits a lot...fleece too. If you are a woven fabric sewer maybe you can get by with the combo easier.
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Obviously buying seperate machines is a bit more money...
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