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Date: 4/5/13 12:21 PM

Hi, this is my first post, but I've been lurking and learning so much about sewing machines! I am a beginner hobbiest sewer, mostly fixing clothes, making costumes and home decor items, and I hope to start my first real quilt soon.

I visited my local sewing machine shop with the intention of buying a simple mechanical machine for less than $400. I was basically told that computerized machines were far superior and I almost bought a janome magnolia 7330. A really great machine. But I went home and thought more about it. I don't have a dedicated sewing space, the machine will be stuffed in a closet next to my vacuum, and I have 2 young boys that helped me break my mothers kenmore, so I'm thinking at this time in my life a basic mechanical machine will suit me better.

I am looking at purchasing online, a janome hd1000, hd3000 or sewist 500. Do you have any recommendations? Or should I just go back to the dealers and get the magnolia 7330? Thank you for your help.

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Date: 4/5/13 2:21 PM

The HD3000 or Sewist500 will be more versatile for you in the long run. Both are well reviewed machines. Look at the stitches at both machines and pick which will work better for the type of sewing you do. HD1000 is also well reviewed and supposedly very tough, but it doesn't have adjustable presser foot pressure which can make sewing knits more challenging.

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Date: 4/5/13 11:15 PM

I have sewed on both the HD 1000 and the 3000.
The 1000 is a basic mechanicl machine solid metal frame and a work horse. Nice storage box, good lighting, easy threader. It does not have a horizontal drop in bobbin, but a vertical one that goes inside a metal bobbin case (push/pull I have heard it called). It is a little cumbersome at first, but you get used to it. You cannot see the bobbin while sewing, so you have to remove the storage box, flip open the bobbin box area and pull out the metal case and see what is left. There is no clutch that stops the bobbin when it is full, you have to watch it. The down side about this type of bobbin is that it jams threads when you run off the material sometimes and makes a "bird nest". It is an EXCELLENT bobbin maker and some people use it just to make bobbins for their quilting machine so that they never unthread their quilter. The stitches are very basic ones and there is not a lot of fine adjustment that can be done, max length is 4mm. However, it can sew jean hems great as well as handle knits/stretchy fabrics ( I sew on leotards for dancers). It is noisier than than the 3000 but not real loud. There are you tube video demos and Leah Day turns it into a free motion quilting machine in a you tube video. This baby will last a long long time. We are keeping it for bobbins and jean hems and a simple basic back up machine.

The HD 3000 is not as solid a frame, but has a horizontal drop in bobbin and is virtually jam proof. You can literally run the foot off the piece of fabric and turn it around and run it right back through over and over and there is never a bird's nest. It comes with a lot of feet that store nicely in labeled cut out bins at the top of the machine. There is a nice pop up stitch guide at the top of the machine, but it is kind of busy and hard to figure out as it uses a lot of symbols. You have to stand up in order to see over your machine. It tells you what foot, what tension, what length and width for the stitches so you do not have to refer to the manual. I really liked that. There is pressure adjusment on it but only three notches, not like 6 I have seen on more expensive machines. Not a big feature on this machine. The stitch selector is a clanking dial that is a similar dial like your needle raise/lower dial and you some times find yourself turning the stitch selector rather than the needle lever dial and visa versa, raising your needle when you meant to select your stitch. Not a big deal really. It is noisy when you change stitches. Would wake a sleeping baby though. Lighting is good too as in the 1000 and is a real bulb not LED. It does NOT do a good job making bobbins with the thread spool in the horizontal position. The thread is very lopsided and very loose on one end of the bobbin. The clutch does stop when the bobbin is full though. The thread spool can sit either horizontally OR vertically, so if you use the horizontal position for the spool, make your bobbin before you thread the machine by using the vertical posts. If you happen to run out of bobbin, unthread your machine and move the thread spool back to the vertical post, make bobbin, then return spool to horizontal post. The horizontal post is nice, because it tucks the thread spool into the machine and when you close the stitch guide plate, everything is nice and neat when you walk away and come back later (could store in closet threaded). There is more versaitility in stitches as opposed to the HD 1000. The sound is lovely.....very quiet. Did a pretty good job on jean hems, but not as good as the 1000. With a metal foot though, as opposed to clear plastic one, and going slow, it can be done. The harp space was the largest of the three we tested. Favorite harp space in fact was the 3000. The all purpose foot has a black spring loaded button to depress when going over thick intersections and levels out the presser foot. The needle threader was the most unusual of any Janome I have sewn on and I poked my finger pulling it down, several times, as the natural position of my finger landed right against the metal hook that grabs the thread. Not as easy to thread as 1000 but not difficult either. It was once marketed as a special edition 4618 and you tube videos are available by time2do and under hd3000 as well.

Another option in this price range is a computerized DC1050. You get needle up/needle down, and start/stop sewing so you do not have to use the pressor foot. Both really nice features. No auto thread cutter though. Needle threader was nice and same on 1000. Selecting stitches is kind of unusual as you use directional arrow buttons to move a cursor on the screen and then move up and down through the options. Each press of an arrow emits a beep sound. We could not jam this machine either. Not as quiet as 3000 but not as loud as 1000. Lighting was okay, but I like bulb lighting over LED and this was LED. The 1050 was in the middle as far as hemming jeans. Although, an internet demo video shows it doing a great job....maybe he was more skilled? Can sew through thick layers well. You can change the ankle on the machine and make it a short shank so that more Janome feet can fit on it. (by taking the ankle from the 3000 and putting it on the 1050, we could try out all the feet that came with the 3000). It did not come with many feet or as many extra bobbins. We were able to convert it to a free motion quilter like the 1000 too. Of the three, it was the most difficult to thread, but none of them would be a problem after learning the steps. Bobbins were nice and even. Clutch stops the bobbin once it is full. You can see when you are running out of bobbin. My mom opted for this machine and we returned the 3000.
You can order all of them on Amazon, test them out and then return the ones you least prefer if the opinions here do not help you decide. I know the folks here have helped me tremendously and hope you find them helpful too. Best of luck!

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Date: 4/6/13 2:10 AM

What a lot of great info!

I'm so seeing though, is the vertical bobbin system in that Janome different from other vertical bobbin systems? Because I have 2 Pfaffs, a Baby Lock, a Kenmore, and a BUNCH of Berninas with vertical bobbins, and I sew off the fabric all the time, every session really. Never a jam.

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Date: 4/6/13 9:49 AM

The mechanical Janomes are very solid machines. I bought one from Sears 2 years ago when they were being sold under the Kenmore name. I only paid $150 for mine; they are now considerably more but I think still a good deal. Kens have them Janome
It has all the basic stitches and a few extra, and adjustable foot pressure. They have a very good reputation and you would find the reviews under Kenmore on here. I wouldn't trade mine for anything.

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Date: 4/6/13 10:20 AM

I have the 16321 version of yours & I love it too. I agree with you the Janomes & Kenmore made Janome's are very nice & great stitching machine.
Of course I really love my Janome 2212 allot, it sews like a real dream in my book. Thick stuff, thin stuff it does not matter it sews a nice even & beautiful stitch & they are both Quiet!
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Date: 4/6/13 11:23 AM

Yes indeed. ALmost the same stitches as the HD1000 as well. I shared the love and sent my to my oldest sister so she will finally have a decent machine. Actually this serves 2 people since my mom will now have access to a machine that is both excellent AND she likes when she visits my sister (she visits pretty often). When my mom was visiting me she used it a fair amount and fell in love with it all over again. 2212 is an excellent machine for the budget minded and is good on jean hems as well.

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Date: 4/6/13 3:58 PM

I just looked at the 2212. Is it full size? My daughter wants to take up sewing this summer when she is home. I am not sure I want to part with my 18221 and that seems like a nice price. I can't find a remarketed version of the 16321. I have wished that I had bought that because it has a few extra features. Ug I don't know why Kenmore stopped selling them-I guess there was just not enough of us buying sm from Sears anymore.

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Date: 4/6/13 6:11 PM

Yes it is full size sm. It is a white with kinda mint color. It uses low shank feet but does have a bit higher lift if you need it. I hope she would like it. I have had mine almost 2 years & I do really love it allot. .. it is vertical bobbin though, some people prefer drop in bobbin. It can share the bobbins with your Kenmore too as well as needles.

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