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Multi-Needle or Embroidery Only?
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Date: 4/30/13 1:00 PM

I've been doing more embroidery lately and have quite a few projects lined up for the year. My latest project, Anita Goodesign's Baltimore Revisted quilt, put on about 500,000 stitches on my machine. So I am considering the purchase of another embroidery machine and would like it to be an embroidery only, or a combo machine used soley for embroidery (with the advantage of sewing as backup only). My question is, what is the advantage of having a multi-needle machine? Is it that they are made for daily, heavy use? I really don't mind switching out my threads since I use the 10 spool holder and it's REALLY convenient and don't want to spend more than I need. I'm taking another look at Babylock's Spirit machine since I can get that for about $3500-$3700.

I'm just a little worried about putting too much wear/tear on my Ellisimo, so that's why I'm considering a stand alone. Any input would be great!

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Date: 4/30/13 1:56 PM

Do you have a dealer who knows how to use and service a multi-needle machine.

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Date: 4/30/13 2:39 PM

A multi needle embroidery machine is a embroidery only machine. But, one advantage of a multi needle more commercial kind of one, is when you pay for it, and even buy it, you most times get some real sit down training someplace offered even if not near to you, on not only how to use it, but also how to keep it running, and in use and even repaired somewhat even just by yourself, instead of having to haul it into by means of a car, to some dealer someplace everytime you got some sewing or repair issue. Just because it is big and heavy, and also they figure people whom have them are running a business often and can't afford even time wise, to even have to take it and leave it anyplace and wait around for someone else to clean and oil it or repair smaller things about it at all, and so why machine more made so you can do that yourself if you want to.

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Date: 4/30/13 3:52 PM

Yes, my dealer does know how to use the machines and services them as well.

BeauTurbo - I'm only interested in the home based multi-needle machines, like the Babylock Endurance. Not anything commercial.

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Date: 4/30/13 4:16 PM

The problem with buying a home use embroidery only machine I don't think there is one that does anything bigger then 5 x 7. You need a combo for that. I would pick a budget and go from there.

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Date: 4/30/13 4:34 PM

The Babylock Spirit embroiders up to 7 x12, so that would be an option.

How funny, before you just mentioned that, I completely forgot about the Brother PE770 that is on Amazon for $599. If only it could embroidery a bigger field, that would have been a good choice.

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Date: 4/30/13 6:36 PM

I think the Brother has the Dreamweaver embroidery only but not sure what size that goes up to.

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Date: 5/1/13 6:48 AM

I have an Ellisimo. I guess my feeling is that it was made to sew. Seeing an using other brands I feel this is the easiest and most stress free. Embroidery is a joy. So why spend 4k on a headache? You could put it toward repairs if it came to that.
I do have a second machine, an older Pfaff that I use for construction. I am more concerned about repeatedly throwing heavy home dec, jeans seams and totes at my ElliMo then embroidery due to the bulk- pushing heavy seams through which can bend or break needles and throw off the timing.
But I really don't know what the life expectancy of these machines are or if number of stitches affect its life cycle. I worry more about the computer parts going out. I hear about Berninas needing mothers boards replaced about every 7 yrs so I would think it might be the same with BLs.

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Date: 5/1/13 12:37 PM

Thanks for the input, SandiMacD.....you made some really good points. I have a 70's Kenmore free arm machine that I kept from my old sewing herd. It's the only machine I kept (from the 12 that I had) when I sold all of them. I kept it mainly because it is all metal and I can use that for the heavy stuff, not to mention it has a tiny free arm and I make a lot of clothes for all the children in my family. I haven't sewn any heavy home dec or jeans on my Ellisimo since I bought it.

My original plan was to purchase the Crescendo to use as my secondary sewing machine so I could sew while embroidering. But lately, with all the embroidery I've been doing I thought maybe I should purchase an embroidery only machine and use the Ellisimo as my main sewing machine. The Babylock Spirit has the same size hoops as the Ellisimo (although I don't think it can embroider on the 8 x 8, but I haven't researched) so I think I would be okay with that. And the Spirit and Crescendo are about the same at my dealer's, so that wouldn't be an issue.

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But I really don't know what the life expectancy of these machines are or if number of stitches affect its life cycle. I worry more about the computer parts going out.


The stitch count has always intrigued me....Just seeing how many stitches I put on my machine made me start thinking about this. But just yesterday I thought, all the machines out there that have sewn for many, many years without stitch counts must have millions and millions of stitches and you would never know. And plenty of older embroidery machines that didn't have the counter are still going strong today. I think alot of people put too much thought into stitch count these days. I agree with you that I'm more worried about the electronics or motherboard or screen going out now more than how many stitches I'm putting on my machine.

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Date: 5/1/13 1:36 PM

Well I've had my Janome 10001 for almost 10 years now and feel it's going as strong as it ever did. And I've sewn a lot on it. I have a 20 year Bernina 1630 that is also still going strong. So I really don't think you have to worry too much about it. The machines are meant to be used. If anything I would wait for a few years and then buy a more updated machine.

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