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Poor Staff @ Jo-Annes Fabric's!
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Date: 5/6/13 6:04 PM

Hey guys, I am planning to undertake a sewing project this Autumn when I have squared away some time (Butterick #4050), so I went to Joanne's Fabrics scouting for the specific fabric that I was after. Having checked their stock about a year beforehand, I thought I would check again to see if they carried any black POLY-RAYON fabric. The first attempt, the employee never mentioned that they could order me some or not. So, when my search turned up nothing again, this time, I decided to stop an employee at the Cutting Counter and enquired about having them order me some. She told me they could, but ONLY if I supplied them with a specific number! WTF? I really had to probe her comment more deeply to discover what type of number she was requesting. After all, I thought that any store such as this might have access to countless distributors, but that didn't seem to be the case. I was wrong about that, it seems, because she told me that I had to log-on to the Joanne's Fabric's website (which I always thought was rather limited in the first place) and physically give my local store's staff the # for the specific bolt of fabric that I was interested in. However, this whole experience has led me to wonder aloud: What sort of a business model requires that a *customer* perform the homework of the staff that one is attempting to do business with?! Am I crazy to be feeling that way? This is, by far, the more mild bad encounter that I've had at this Joanne's Fabrics store to date. But, she later mentioned something that I wanted to ask you guys about just to be sure that she wasn't feeding me some line. You see, I am attempting to replicate a garment that many other folks sell for several hundred dollars. So, I was able to contact someone "in the know" who told me that they use a black poly-rayon blend because "it flows and swirls LIKE A DREAM!!!" The Joanne's employee, however, seemed rather certain that if I substituted simply plain black polyester in a decent weight that it would function identically to a poly-rayon blend. Would the addition of rayon in polyester do something to the fabric that plain polyester would not be able to emulate on its own?

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Date: 5/6/13 6:31 PM

Yeah, Jo-ann's computer system is evil.

As for the material, I would think that rayon would add breathability, depending on percentages. I think "flow and swirl" would be pretty similar.

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Date: 5/6/13 6:31 PM

Rayon does drape beautifully and I seek out any fabrics that contain rayon/viscose for this reason. It should feel much nicer and drapier than plain polyester, and in my experience it also breathes better and doesn't get as smelly. Pure polyester and armpits can be a stinky mix even on non-stinky people...

We don't have Joanne's here but that doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. That's really poor customer service.

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Date: 5/6/13 7:10 PM

Oh fabulous! Because my medical condition can be heat-sensitive* (Meniere's Disease), knowing that rayon allows for breathability s an uber-PLUS!

*My internal thermostat puts out a LOT of heat for some reason!

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Date: 5/6/13 7:38 PM

BTW, when looking for a poly-rayon blend on-line is there any other data or details that I ought to look for to ensure that it'll be the texture and "feel" that I'm looking for? It should have a somewhat "shiny" appearance. For example, all the 100% black polyester that I saw in Joanne's was somewhat shiny. Yet, on the website, the photos make is seem flat or matted by contrast.

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Date: 5/6/13 8:18 PM

They are probably limited to ordering whatever is available in their warehouse. As someone who works retail, I can understand their needing to know exactly what it is you want to order. They are a mass-marketer. Special orders would probably be unusual for them. It's just not what they do. Add to that the fact that a quick search of Joann's website does not turn up any rayon-poly or poly-rayon blend fabrics. (Although I know long, long ago I bought a double-knit Poly-Rayon-Lycra blend at a Joann's.)

Do you want a knit or a woven?

A double knit or a single knit?

A print or a solid?

What garment are you trying to replicate?

If it's a high-end garment, that particular fabric may have been custom made for the designer and not available to consumers. Especially not at a Joann's.

Many of the nicer rayon-poly blends also have some lycra in them.

Sophia knit by Logantex is a widely available rayon/poly/lycra doubleknit. Vogue fabrics has it in many colors.

Emma One Sock, Marcy Tilton and Gorgeous Fabrics usually have RPL gabardines or twills, if what you want is a woven.

You can get swatches from any of them, I think.

"Flows and swirls like a dream" sounds to me like a rayon or poly matte jersey or a polyester microfiber knit.


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Date: 5/6/13 8:33 PM

I'm not a fan of poly/rayon, preferring to use 100% rayon. Just be sure to buy extra and wash the hell out of it to preshrink it. And I really dislike straight polyester as a general rule (for many of the same reasons stated above) though no doubt it has its place.

Somewhere.

On someone.

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Date: 5/6/13 8:50 PM

@Timck3, it's a solid, not a print; and I have no idea what the difference is between a knit, single knit, double knit, or woven, etc. I would need to be shown physical examples of each to grasp the uniqueness of each. And, I have already mentioned what it was that I was trying to replicate in my initial post, Butterick pattern #4050. However, I must also add that, of the examples I have seen, the fabric has a sort of sheen (not a "matte" type of finish) very similar to the 100% poly bolts I observed being sold at Joanns, though I failed to take a closer look at each bolt to see what type of weave, etc. they were.

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Date: 5/6/13 9:38 PM

just throwing in a few things....the fabric id no. in question for Joann's is an 8 digit sku no. or we can use the upc code no. to do a stock search to see if we have the fabric or if it can be ordered either from the warehouse or custom ordered from Joann's. Our computers go by numbers to search for any information.

We would need to know weave of fabric or as much information as you can provide to help you.

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Date: 5/6/13 10:05 PM

Here is description of recommended fabric (if it is the unisex cape):

FABRICS: Metallic Fabrics, Satin and Velvet. Also for A: Embellished Organza, Organza and 4 Ply Georgette. Contrast Lining: Metallic Fabrics and Satin. Unsuitable for obvious diagonals.

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