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Date: 5/20/13 9:31 PM

Dressing up or dressing down!

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Date: 5/20/13 10:41 PM

I try to tune out people like that. It is a complete pain trying to buy RTW dressy clothes.

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Date: 5/20/13 10:47 PM

I completely agree with it. I hate going out to a nice restaurant and seeing the people at the next table looking like they just finished mowing the lawn. It doesn't take much to look at least well groomed if not stylish.

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Date: 5/20/13 11:25 PM

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There was a time when a woman really made an entrance! Remember? Skirts swished, heads turned . . . and it wasn't for a red carpet event, either.


Interesting, but *extremely* gender-freighted. There's a half-hearted attempt to introduce a male student at the end, but it's all about how women should be decorative. The discussion of moving from hats-and-gloves to casual clothes cannot, to my mind, be totally separated from the changing role of women in society. Women may look "nicer" in girdles, but they inhibit your movement and can shorten your life. Prescriptive fashion based on gender roles is a slippery slope.

I say all this as someone who wears dresses and skirts virtually every day, and is horrified by the idea of athleticwear as real clothes. But I get to choose what to wear every morning, without risk of ostracization and having a huge range of acceptable options. I can bike to work in my clothes, and be professional in them once I get there. I choose my clothes to suit my lifestyle and needs, not to serve an outside force telling me what I must wear.

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Date: 5/21/13 1:01 AM

We had a major earthquake here just over two years ago and the city is still getting back on its feet, with demolition nearly finished and a few new places opening. With so many builders and other labourers in the city, it is difficult to get away from workwear, high viz vests, boots, etc., during the day. At first, the few venues that were open were grateful for the customers they got, but there have been lots of fights, antisocial behaviour and that sort of thing.

Some months ago many of the venues got together on a policy of no work wear or slob wear after a certain time (generally 7pm, I think), and by all accounts the problem behaviour has improved dramatically. When people see others around them looking nice and making an effort, they perceive the venue as being nice and worth making an effort for, and they see that the tone is generally high.

Of course the opposite is true too. When you walk into a venue and it's full of people covered in paint and cement and wearing dirty clothes and beanie hats, it suggests that anything goes. The standard of behaviour goes down along with the dress code.

Here is a newspaper article on the topic, if you want to read further.

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Date: 5/21/13 1:35 AM

Am I part of the problem if I asked my daughter if I could wear jeans to her wedding?

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Date: 5/21/13 1:45 AM

i choose to not dress up because i don't find it enjoyable, so i wear jeans, solid colored t-shirts (usually black or gray), and running shoes just about every day. i've started making my own shirts because i can never find them with long enough sleeves.

even though i don't dress up, i don't like when i go out and see people that look like they are wearing their PJs out in public. i think the last time i went anywhere like that was when i had to go to the ER in the middle of the night.

the last time i actually dressed up was for a wedding in december. if people don't like it, i really don't care. i am more than happy to spend my money elsewhere.

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Date: 5/21/13 1:46 AM

no, you just live in washington. :D

yay for jeans! yay!

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Date: 5/21/13 1:55 AM

It did hit home with me because I am so tired of seeing people wearing their jamie bottoms into Dunkin' Donuts on the weekends, and wearing their jamie bottoms shopping at the grocery store and the drug store, and now you see people with their little ones still in their jamies also. Good grief - and I do mean the jamie bottom, muffin-top and all, slopping around in the flip-flops with the bed-hair thing goin' on. Oh yes, and the thong showing.....HAHAHHAHAA.....I mean it makes me look dressed up though in my Mom jeans and tee and Birks. So maybe I should be glad they like to NOT dress, so even my dressed down look is better. Small favors and all that. And this look is unisex, so no demanding woman stuff here.

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Date: 5/21/13 4:54 AM

I think there is some confusion in this discussion between being smart/fashionable, and being clean/groomed. A person can be clean and take care of themselves without wearing "fancy" clothes, and somebody can be in a designer outfit and still be dirty and unkempt. It's the unkempt crowd that seems to be the problem, not the ones who choose a more relaxed style of dress.

For the record, I do consider appearing in public in sleepwear to be unkempt.
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