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Are there any made with needle up/down?
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Date: 6/19/13 9:53 PM

Are there any mechanical machine models that have the needle up/down capability?

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Date: 6/19/13 10:35 PM

I think I may have one of the oldest so called "needle up" sewing machines.It's a Pfaff 262-261 with the "Stopmatic".Other old Pfaff models that were manufactured after the old Pfaff 262 with "Stopmatic"came out have that feature too.Along the way the word Stopmatic was dropped,the feature became known as - needle up.

When I push lightly on the presser foot lever,the needle goes up.I can take my project out from under the presser foot.And ...the needle is in the right spot for the needle threader to work properly every time I want to thread the needle.

The one thing I loved when I bought my first electronic Pfaff with IDT,was that I never had to touch the hand/balance wheel to get the machine sewing when I started sewing.

Unlike my old Berninas,Elnas,Singers and other brands.I always had to help a bit by turning the hand/balance wheel first.All my electronic Pfaffs with IDT I own have the same "needle up" feature too.


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Date: 6/19/13 10:47 PM

Thanks for the info about the Pfaff 262/261. I'm looking for a mechanical machine that has the needle up/down function and now I have a model I can focus on - that's what I needed.

I'm also intrigued by the older model Pfaffs with the built in IDT - I realize they're electronic - but that's still "one level" before going completely computerized. Of the models you own, which ones do you like the best?

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Date: 6/19/13 11:20 PM

Both my older mechanical Bernina's have the needle up/ down built into the foot pedal, do you rock your foot pedal back and it takes a half stitch and forward the other half. Down then up. Love this. I have a 1020 with knee lift ( unusual on that model ) and also a 1031. My daughter has a 1030 with it also.
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Date: 6/19/13 11:47 PM

A Bernina 930 has a needle up / down, but it runs off a clutch system that's kinda noisy. It also has "electronic" parts, which, like someone said, is just a step below computerized.

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Date: 6/20/13 0:43 AM

Just checked my mechanical Bernina 1090 purchased in 1993 or 94, yes it does :)

Later I bought a Bernina Active 145, discovered it had no needle down/up feature, so I gave it to my daughter and bought an Aurora 430 which does. Couldn't live without it.

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Date: 6/20/13 2:56 AM

I had the Aurora 430. It is not a mechanical model- its fully computerized. My daughter now has it and the motherboard had to be replaced this year when it would not power up. Mechanical machines don't have motherboards.

I also have a mechanical Pfaff 6152 in the Triptronic category. I got it second hand a few months ago. I dont know if it is purely mechanical or considered electronic. It makes absolutely beautiful stitches but it does not have the needle up/down stopmatic feature. Or if it does, I haven't found it. I have learned how to tap the foot pedal just right to make one more complete stitch or bring up the needle. I still use the flywheel to set it down into the fabric if I need a precise start or drop location. I have used it to begin a narrow turned seam in slippery charmeuse and thin cotton gauze at the edge of the fabric and the feed dogs have never eaten it. With the IDT it doesn't require a needle down start.

If my work requires my needle to always end in the down position I turn to my computerized Ellisimo. I did try the thin gauze project on the Ellisimo because it was threaded and ready. The feed dogs ate it without the straight stitch needle plate. The Pfaff handled it, no problem without a needle down start.

I tend to do garment construction and I learned on a mechanical Singer 301 so controlling the needle location with the fly wheel is second nature to me and not a deal breaker.
I hope you find the machine that best fits your situation- sounds like you have a few options.
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Date: 6/20/13 11:36 AM

are you asking about older, vintage, or newer machines?

In new machines I can think of only two:
the Viking Emerald 118 and Janome Magnolia 7325 both have needle up-down, but are otherwise mechanical.

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Date: 6/20/13 12:34 PM

I'm more interested in older (post vintage but pre newer) machines.

All of your responses are very helpful. Thank you.

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Date: 6/20/13 12:39 PM

Kenmore 16321 ... not vintage but no longer made with Kenmore name on it. It has up/down & speed control. All mechanical.

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