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Musetica
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Date: 6/28/13 5:16 PM

Hello, i am looking into getting a Bernina sewing machine and i have been researching the different models (artista, auroa, new 3 series, virtuosa, etc.) = a mix of older and newer computerized sewing models. I don't understand why the older models (virtuosa, artista) seem to have so many more features than the new ones and are so much cheaper. Of course, the older ones I can only get from eBay, maybe a local dealer or craigslist and at they are likely out of warranty and second hand but...they would cost me around $700-800 vs. a new 350PE for example that is over $1500 and doesn't have near the features of an older Artista 180 for example. Am i missing something? is there another "dimension" i am missing? thank you so much!

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Date: 6/28/13 6:17 PM

The older models you mentioned were 3x more than the 350 when new. In 10-15 years, the 350 will have depreciated also to a fraction of that $1500. There's some risk buying a used machine without warranty and especially computerized models where the board can fail and be very costly to repair. The aurora's are the newest of the ones you mention. I see some of them going used for more than $1500 but some also for much less. You just have to evaluate each one on its own merits.

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Date: 6/29/13 5:48 AM

Whatever the used price, set aside $200-300 for a motherboard replacement. They last 5-7 years. I dont think there is a way to test them- they work perfectly up to the day they keel over. So it is more a maintenance cost on the Auroras- I dont know about the other models.

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Date: 6/29/13 1:21 PM

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Whatever the used price, set aside $200-300 for a motherboard replacement. They last 5-7 years.

Seriously? They should last 20. I'm a former Bernina owner, and I've never understood why these machines cost so much more than other brands. It's most definitely not quality. I think the OP should be open to researching other brands too. Why spend so much money when you can get a better machine with more features for less?
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Date: 6/29/13 1:26 PM

They last much longer than 5-7 years.

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Date: 6/29/13 4:20 PM

I have a 1991 vintage Bernina 1230 that I bought new and had to replace the mother board when it was about 9 years old. Since then I have bought a used 1530 and a used 1630 because they have more features that I will use than the newer machines, at a relatively nominal cost. I have done regular maintenance on all 3 machines and have not had a major repair since 2000.

I went and looked at new Berninas and asked the rep about the some of the features I use that were missing on various machines in the line. She told me that my machines were the top of the line in their day so it is impossible to compare unless I look at today's TOL machines.

Sure, I would like to have some of the newer features but I don't want to give up the tricks my current machines can do, and I don't want to invest in a TOL new machine that has a bunch of stuff I will never use. So, I'm going to keep these girls in good shape and hope collectively they last me another 20 years.

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Date: 6/29/13 7:09 PM

I have a 1530 that I bought new and it still runs like a top! Love it.
At times I think maybe it would be nice to try a new Janome but I would never trade my machine in on a new one. It is a keeper.

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Date: 6/29/13 7:09 PM

I have a virtuoso, wonderful machine. Great piercing power and stitch quality. I have had it for 10 yrs, sewn a lot on it, and replaced only one part, which set me back 75 cents!

Some of these older models are just workhorses. The virutoso and aurora series were very good. I never had an early artista, so I can't speak to them, although I've heard good things.

My machine was purchased from a dealer, and was $2K at the time. It still sews like a new machine. Since I was replacing a machine that was 10-15 yrs old, that had cost $1.5 K, I didn't think the price was all that bad.

Good luck in your search!

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Date: 7/1/13 5:22 PM

Thank you so much for the VERY VALUABLE input! i think i might go for an older one and hope for the besteven replacing the motherboard the price would still be better than if i bought a bottom of the line brand new one. Once gain, thank you for taking the time to reply

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Date: 7/2/13 12:27 PM

Agreed. You get much more for you money going that route. Hopefully you can find one at a dealer used w/ a bit of warranty. Otherwise, a spa treatment after purchase is a good idea.

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