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Harriet P.
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Date: 8/18/13 4:49 PM

Hi,
My daughter (almost 32) has decided to get into sewing. I am not sure how much of an interest she has, but she does want to sew costumes and maybe things for her American Girl dolls. I live in Germantown, Tn. and she lives in San Jose, CA. I have been sewing for years and I know what I would like in a sewing machine. She has no idea what she needs or even what to ask the people at the sewing machine dealer's stores. I told her that I can send her a list of things that I find are important, but remember, I am experienced and she knows very little about sewing machines. I did tell her to go and ask a saleslady to show her machines that are in the $400 to $600 range and not to buy any machine until she has checked out several different brands of machines and to bring her own fabric into the stores and try out different machines. She has been to a Viking store and a lady pointed out the new Rose Eden 250M which is a mechanical machine. I hate the way salespeople make a big deal about snap on feet, one-step buttonholes and needle down when many of the new mid-range machines have these features. Has anyone ever seen this new machine? I told her that when she is ready to go to other sewing machine stores that she can call me and I can see the machines on facebook and talk to her in real time on our phones. I would like to get some advice on your feelings about this. Thanks, Harriet

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Date: 8/18/13 5:15 PM

The Eden Rose 250M is basically the same as the Emerald 118 with a few extra stitches. The nice thing is that it uses Viking feet, however, it can not use all Viking accessories. It would probably be perfect for the type of sewing your daughter wants to do.

There is another dealer in San Jose...Ray's Sewing, that has been around for years. They are a Janome dealer.

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Date: 8/18/13 5:27 PM

There's a great well rated Brother machine in the 400 range (at dealers, NOT a chainstore) and it's Babylock counterpart that's easy for someone new to use, reliable, handles a big variety of fabrics and yes is computerized with one step buttonholes. I know one salesperson vs another or another may emphasize this or that but I personally will not use a machine for buttonholes that requires making buttonholes manually. Had a conversation with someone at a sewing event this week about this as our great mechanicals make beautiful buttonholes - but the consistence of one to the next ie on a blouse is determined by the user's precise marking/starting/stopping. It can be done but why make a beginner do that if not necessary? So maybe that's why some salespeople stress one step bh's. If she said she just wants to quilt they may not. A good salesperson will try and match a machine to what she wants to do or thinks she does, maybe with some room to grow or good trade options.
When I was in the SF area visiting friends we went to Eddie's quilt shop/machine dealer and really liked them. There was another in east bay area someone liked too. Maybe it would be best if people here recommend good dealers in the area for her to visit. Even if you review and discuss with her only she will know how a machine really felt to her no matter which seems better on paper, and will also have some sense of which dealer will better help her. Good luck!

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Date: 8/18/13 6:04 PM

Is your daughter computer savvy? If she knows about computer use and she probably does since practically everyone her age must certainly have had them in school, then perhaps she would prefer the quiet, multi-sttich easy to use computerized Janomes in this price range. My DD didn't even want to think about a mechanical really, although she had used my Pfaff a few times, but she fell in love with her Janome which is like the present DC2013, which is a model tested by time now, since in 2008 I think was it's debut as the HT2008, and it was also the Kenmore 19110. Great machine, easy to use, and so quiet it is a joy. Solidly built and really nice. If she prefers mechanicals, there are the various Babylock, Janome, Necchi (if there is a dealer near) places to look at those. She already looked at the Vikings, so time to see what else there is!

I think the thing is to buy a good dealer and at your price range, and that pretty much covers it - the brand probably is not pivotal.

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Date: 8/18/13 6:25 PM

As Karen149 mentioned the Viking Eden Rose 250M...M is for mechanical... is the next "version" of the Viking Emerald 118...plus a few more stitches. It's really really pretty...but it's ONLY available at an authorized Viking dealer's. Which is very strange to me that Joann Fabrics in-store Viking center (of the stores that have an in-store Viking center) does have the computerized Eden Rose 250C...C is for computer...but NOT the mechanical Eden Rose 250M.

What price did the Viking store lady state as the price of the 250M?
The price is only quoted by an authorized dealer. The one I called stated it as almost $600.

There is a new Janome Magnolia model (Magnolia 7325) that is very similar to the Eden 250M but less in $...although I do not know it's price. Another sm that only an authorized Janome dealer can quote the price.

Janome accessory feet are affordable. Viking feet are expensive.

The Eden Rose 250 sure is pretty...but pretty only goes so far when there is something just as nice for less $.

Edited to add: Where/how will your daughter learn to use her sewing machine...and where/how will she learn to sew?


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Date: 8/18/13 6:25 PM

I'm all for starting with a Mechanical. I don't find them as "finicky" as a computerized machine. They are a bit more forgiving.

Just my opinion about Vikings: We use them in the Joann classroom. They sew very nicely(the 116 and 118). I don't like the fact that the dials are not marked. Not using one everyday, I have to look in the manual to re-educate myself on which dial is for width and which is for length. It was a turn off for me.

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Date: 8/18/13 6:30 PM

Hi Muffet, Yes, she is very computer savvy! She uses facebook and twitter all of the time. She also has a blog. Her husband works making software to use with cellular phones. He must have around 11 computers in one of their bedrooms. I would rather have computerized machines because you can do so much more with them. That is why I told her to sit down and play with different sewing machines. I told her that if she spends around $400 to $600 dollars for a machine, she could get a good, solid, built one. She doesn't want to make quilts, but she might like sewing machines with a lot of decorative stitches. I want her to end up with a machine that will not be too limiting in the future.
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Date: 8/18/13 6:45 PM

Oh...it's computerized she would like? Sorry got onto mechanicals because of the Eden Rose 250M.

Have you seen the new Singer 9970 on HSN? It has gotten good comments from PR members who have ordered one.

Singer Quantum Stylist 9970

It's $100 more now than it aired for at its initial debut...plus shipping now as well...BUT it still comes with its super sized accessory package...feet galore...and another PR member said she could tell at least one foot was a Viking foot...very spendy to buy separately all those feet.

There is a thread here on PR about the 9970 and one PR member has linked on the thread about his own video tests on the one he got. VERY GOOD RESULTS IN THE TESTS. Here is a link to the PR thread.

HSN Quantum Stylist 9970



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Date: 8/18/13 7:13 PM

Hi Bestgrammy, She looked at a mechanical sewing machine at the Viking dealership because that is what the lady showed my daughter. My daughter doesn't know what she wants at this point. She was a theater major in college and in high school. She actually did take a class where she used a sewing machine, but that was many years ago. I think the lady told her that the price was $300 for the Eden Rose 25M. I told her to only buy at a dealer because she needs to take some classes. She works better when she learns new skills with a person. I saw that Singer on HSN, but she needs more personal attention or the machine will just sit in her house and hardly ever be used.
Harriet

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Date: 8/18/13 7:24 PM

Very understandable that your daughter will need more personal attention to learn to use a sm and to learn to sew than just ordering online. All that personal attention can be done through beginner sewing classes if available in her area. Some dealers offer only one machine use class for free...just one...and other dealers offer more...depends on the dealer.

A SIL of mine was sent a sm that she said she wanted oh so much...but after three years she has not done more than thread it...and that does not include winding a bobbin on her own.
But...she has not looked into a sewing class either...so go figure.

As for the Eden Rose 250M if I could get it for $300...I would snap it up! Was that for NIB (new in box) or a used one? The lowest quote I got for a NIB was $570.



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