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Date: 8/25/13 3:54 PM

I decided to use cotton on the back instead of fleece. Fleece highlights the quilting so prominently, it's just not what I wanted for this quilt. I like printed cotton because the stitching blends so inconspicuously. I got a very very cute fabric that matches well and is doing a superb job of stitch camouflage.

I used my favorite Quilter's Dream Puff batting. I like quilts for kids to be as lofty, lightweight and soft as possible.

I tried the homemade elmer's glue spray baste. It is not a great choice for poly battings that can't be ironed. It takes ALL NIGHT LONG to dry! Ugggg I am toooo impatient for that.

It doesn't actually 'spray'. It comes out of the spray bottle in a stream that is not so easy to control. My hand got tired from squeezing the trigger. It was soggy wet in a few spots that bled through the batting onto my table, and my hand got coated with sticky fuzz from smoothing the fabric out on top.

It DOES however work very very well to keep the back from shifting. If you are allergic or sensitive to sprays it is an excellent alternative if you have the patience to wait for it to dry, or use a batting you can heat set it with your iron for instant drying.

I used my Sullivan's spray for the top. It works very very well also, in a tiny fraction of the time. It smells awful though. I need to find 505, everyone seems to agree it's the best for spray basting!

When I started quilting I broke a needle right away on one of the hard glue clumps. I switched to a bigger needle and had no more problems. I started with an #80 topstitch and switched to a #90 topstitch.

There are harder glue places ALL OVER the back. They are not rock hard like full strength glue would make, (there is only one or 2 of those super hard spots) but much stiffer than normal fabric and visibly noticeable on the fabric. It looks like the fabric is wet in those places, but it's dry.

I had to really lower my tension also. My machine has a tension compensation feature, and I turned that all the way down, then lowered the tension the normal way also. I am using Isacord and Metro poly thread in top and bobbin.

There are some places on the back where the stiffer glue places have some wonky stitches. I need to slow down, it does make a difference!

I am once again amazed at how FAST! FMQ is! I got well over 60% of the quilt quilted in no time at all! I am trying to quilt BIG, and for me that is such a challenge. I tend to get smaller and smaller as I go along. But I do not want this quilt stiff and hard, it has so much going on with applique I need it to have minimal stitching to keep it soft. The cotton on the back is much stiffer than fleece also.

I tried so hard to NOT make a pattern on the tree. I wanted total random large areas, and I think I did pretty good!

I only ran over one bubble edge. Ticked me off but I am NOT pulling stitches out.

The one thing I STILL struggle with in FMQ is getting consistent nicely rounded curves. I get 'bends' more than curves. I do not know why I have such a hard time with that!

I have a terrible headache so not sure I'll quilt more tonight, but I'll try to get pictures later.

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Date: 8/25/13 6:14 PM

Thanks for commenting on the glue basting, I am finishing a pineapple quilt for my sister and was planning to try the Elmers glue spray. I will try putting small dots or using the paint brush, see if it works better.

I am very curious to see how your quilt will turn out, I was following your posts on the “work in progress” thread. It is so pretty! I like photographing bugs (I enjoy macro photography), though I must admit I don’t like them in my house. Your quilt would be an exception!

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Date: 8/25/13 6:54 PM

I would recommend trying the diluted spray version vs using the glue straight out of the bottle. I was thinking of using a brush next time, but definitely would NOT want to just squeeze it out of the bottle!

I think the diluted glue dries much better for quilting. As long as you have an idea of what to expect, like don't expect it to 'spray' and know you'll get streams of glue that you may have to spread around a bit in a few places.

I am not doing a lot with the quilting, trying to keep it very simple.

I am not a big fan of bugs at ALL, but I do think these bugs are cute bugs.

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Date: 8/25/13 7:55 PM

Thanks for posting this regarding your experience with glue basting. I get frustrated enough with FMQ without adding hard gobs of glue so this is not a method I will try. I, too, can be doing gorgeous curves and then all of a sudden I forget how I was moving and end up with an angle. It's like my mind and my hand get out of sync.

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Date: 8/25/13 8:31 PM

I guess I'm just lazy but all I do is pin paste. I used to hand baste but that is time consuming but wouldn't consider it if really doing a lot of fmq which I really don't do most of mine is shadow or stitch in the ditch. Cat what gave you the idea to use glue? I know they have the spray stuff you can buy but I can't use it, asthma kicks up big time. I didn't try it for quilting but for machine embroidery for stuff I couldn't hoop.

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Date: 8/25/13 8:32 PM

Ummmm - question here, from a newbie quilter.

Is the Elmer's glue approach for basting so that you can avoid using pins?

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Date: 8/25/13 8:37 PM

Jul I think my hard globs problem was because I put it on way too heavy in a few places. I like to use fluffy poly batting and it is so airy I thought I'd need more to compensate for it sinking into the batting.

It is not surprising for MY mind and hands to get out of sync...my mind is a fickle thing these days

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Date: 8/25/13 8:43 PM

I normally pin baste also, but it is so time consuming! I wanted to try a faster method. Someone posted about glue basting here and I checked out a discussion on the quilting board and decided to try it out.

This would be GREAT for your asthma! It is light years faster than pin basting! If you use batting that can be ironed you can heat set the glue for instant use.

I used it on the bug appliques too. LOVE Elmer's glue! Use the precision tip applicator bottle and heat set it with an iron. Great hold and it washes out of the fabric.

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Date: 8/25/13 8:44 PM

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Ummmm - question here, from a newbie quilter.



Is the Elmer's glue approach for basting so that you can avoid using pins?



Kippysan

Yes, it is just another way to hold your layers together. I normally do pin, but it gets tedious and is very time consuming.

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Date: 8/25/13 8:56 PM

I posted that, just look for “Glue basting” in the Quilters Corner (I don’t know how to put a link, sorry). I saw Sharon Schamber using Elmer’s, many people use it for piecing, then I read on the Quilting Boar about people using for basting the sandwich, so I started to investigate a little further and put the info together in case it was of interest.

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