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Date: 12/9/13 11:24 AM

So, I've recently gotten back into sewing after many years (and 3 kids away). I used to be able to just pick a pattern and sew it up. Hahaha, not anymore! I measured myself and bought the pattern (Simplicity 1717), cut out my size and put it together. The waist is about 1 1/2 inches too small! I guess my question is - do most people buy and cut a larger pattern and then take it in?

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Date: 12/9/13 1:01 PM

I don't. I measure the pattern first and adjust it so that I either cut it larger where it needs to be enlarged or cut it smaller where it needs to be smaller.

Patterns rarely fit anyone right out of the envelope. Most people learn to fit patterns to make them work. There are a multitude of books written on the subject. Everyone has favorites.

I like The Complete Photo Guide to Perfect Fitting by Sarah Veblen, Fitting Finesse by Nancy Zieman and The Perfect Fit by Creative Publishing (previously the Singer Reference Library).

Good luck.

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Date: 12/9/13 3:06 PM

Usually people find Big 4 patterns too big, not too small! Did you make the size that corresponds with your waist measurement, or your hip? After having 3 kids, you might have a waist that corresponds to a bigger size than your hip. It's easy to alter in the pattern stage on a simple skirt like that.

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Date: 12/9/13 6:32 PM

Through experience I learned that with a skirt or pants with a yoke, I need to make a test version of the yoke. This seems to be especially true of a yoke that sits below the natural waist. The fit is so critical in this area and it's almost impossible to measure on the body -- an inch higher or lower mean a big difference in circumference. It requires only scraps to make a test yoke. After getting the fit right, I can take it apart and use it as a pattern. Of course, if you change the bottom edge of the yoke, you will have to adjust the skirt part to match the yoke. I've had little trouble fitting the part below the yoke. I know I need 3-4 inches of ease at the hipline, so I measure the hip line (me and the pattern) and adjust if needed, and it's done.

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Date: 12/9/13 7:01 PM

Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I guess I'll keep trying to make it work!

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Date: 12/10/13 4:55 PM

Like you, I recently got back into sewing after a number of years.

There seem to be some hard truths that many of us in the same situation have found:

1) Pattern Sizes are not the same as Ready to Wear. For most of us, we've had to size up. There's lots of info on this site about choosing the right size.

2) You may have been able to sew patterns that fitted with little or no alterations when you were younger. As we age, things happen to our bodiesbut don't worry, you're in good company here. Read and learn, you'll be glad you did. Not only will you begin to understand what needs to be altered to fit your creations, you'll understand more about why some Ready to Wear garments fit you well and others do not.

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Date: 12/10/13 7:24 PM

I'm another one who finds the Big four too small, but I like a lot of moving room. I always add to my patterns. Was there a "finished garment" measurement on the pattern piece? Did that correspond with your waist size? Also, that is one of those yoke waists, I find they are harder for me to fit because it's not only going around my waist, but around my upper hip. Did you measure your natural waist, or where you normally wear your waistbands. That can make a big difference.

To find your natural waist, tie a string around where you think your waist is. Walk around the house a bit, before you now it, that string is going to find your natural waist. It may be higher or lower than you think it is. Measure from string, to where you like to wear your waistbands and measure that circumference.

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Date: 12/10/13 11:47 PM

Hi inneedofaname,
I truly sympathise with the getting back to sewing and finding out that the patterns! don't fit anymore. I'm still working thru that one!
I just googled simplicity 1717 and looked at their images section. From there I checked out 'Gatorbunnysews.blogspot etc' and you can see from the pictures that she has there, that on the dress form her waist tape marking can be seen. Which along with her commentary, lets us know that this pattern is made to sit below the waist - which is usually wider than our waist and that may be part of your fitting problem if you re trying to get it to sit on the waist!

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Date: 12/11/13 8:16 AM

Thank you for the encouragement! I'm making a new muslin of the skirt and will post when I'm done. I'm determined to make this right!

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Date: 12/14/13 7:41 AM

When I started sewing garments again a few years ago this site was my best tool. Stick with it. It's so much fun when it all works out.

Just an example of sizing for you...I wear a size 8 in ready-to-wear and according to my measurements, I need a size 16 at the waist of most patterns. The multi-sized patterns will be your friend. As someone else said, measure the pattern flat and see how it corresponds to your measurements, both horizontally and vertically, make adjustments as needed.

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