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Message Board > Machine Embroidery > Artlink and .ART designs from companies other than Bernina ( Moderated by Pyrose)

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Date: 8/30/05 1:59 PM

I have a Bernina Artista 170 and the embroidery module. I also have the CPS and Artlink. I bought the artlink several years ago because I wanted to import other's design files to my machine. Then after paying $500 for the Artlink and CPS I found out that ONLY Bernina put out .ART files and Artlink could only use the .ART files. I couldn't find them by anyone else for any price. Now I see that others are doing designs in the .ART format. Does this mean that I can use anyone's designs as long as they are available in the .ART format? I really don't want to spend another dollar on the magic box, or buy any of the more sophisticated software available. I would like, however, to make the $500 I originally spent be useful. Who has these .ART files available and for how much? Is the software I already hae going to be helpful to me at all? I hit a roadblock with the .ART format a few years ago and haven't done any embroidery since 2001. I am ready to get back into it if it won't cost me another arm and a leg too. I have since had my embroidery module and sewing machine upgraded
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Date: 8/30/05 2:50 PM

Hi Sherril - I have the same vexing problem with my 180E. Artlink is a stripped down version of Bernina's more robust design and editing software, and as such it's not available separately from the initial purchase of a Bernina machine with embroidery capability.

Because .ART is a proprietary file format Bernina guards it's distribution *very* strictly. So anyone who is creating original designs in that format is using Bernina design software because Bernina will not release its source code to developers.

From what I've read (and I hope someone will correct me if I'm mistaken) a Magic Box will convert .ART files to other formats - but not vice versa. To do that you need Bernina's editing software, which will set you back a cool $600 at full retail.

Adding insult to injury is the fact that you will only be able to use designs formatted up to the version of Artlink that you installed in your machine when you bought it. Mine, for example, is about 2 versions behind the version currently being supplied with Bernina embroidery machines. I called my dealer (whom I have since decided is a cheat) and they refused to upgrade me to the latest version of Artlink *unless* I brought my machine in for service.

Also - "Firmware" is not Artlink - that refers to the CPS software (another file format naturally!) installed in the machine for the decorative stitch capability. Having the latest CPS version doesn’t affect what you can do with designs managed in Artlink.

Phyllis

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Date: 8/30/05 8:16 PM

Phyllis, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the info. I have noticed that the Amazing Designs company and that other big company who's name includes the word Oklahoma (I can't think of the correct name right now), is now formatting their designs in .ART files. Does that mean that I can use Artlink and stitch them on my embroidery module? Do I even need to use Artlink at all? I think I would as they come on a CD. I hope my question makes sense and that someone can answer me.
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Date: 8/30/05 8:38 PM

Well, doesn't that just suck? Sherril, I think you're thinking of OESD. They have some relationship with Bernina. I can't remember if they digitized some of the cards for them or what but I remember speaking to them when I worked for a Bernina dealer and had some problems with some of the software. You should be able to use any .art files. There are also loads of .art designs on embroidery.com - they are very inexpensive so you might want to give it a shot.

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Date: 8/30/05 8:52 PM

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I have noticed that the Amazing Designs company and that other big company who's name includes the word Oklahoma (I can't think of the correct name right now), is now formatting their designs in .ART files. Does that mean that I can use Artlink and stitch them on my embroidery module?

Yep you can. Actually, you can use any commercial design that's in an .art format - generally a commercial studio is using a version of Bernina Designer that makes the .art file backwards compatible with older Artlink versions like ours. The last time I looked at Amazing Desings they didn't have anything already foramtted in .ART - if that's changed that's great!

The company you're thinking of is OESD (Oklahoma Embroidery Sewing Design - or something like that.) They are actually owned by Bernina, who bought them becaues they needed an company to provide product support for their embroidery software. I think their pricing models stinks personally - but I really like Embroidery.com

They represent litterally every design studio (Cactus Punch, Sew Man, Floriani and dozens more) and they have good prices, *thousands* of designs (like at least 15,000) and great service. You can also search their site for things like "sunflowers in .art format for less than $10 added to the site in the last 30 days"

I've also seen that OESD (read:Bernina) now sells their own magic box that will convert to .art if you don't want to shell out for $600 Bernina Editor. I'm not impressed.

So yeah - I have do have a little buyers remosre because I didn't really do enough reserach to be aware of the strange position that Bernina takes in the embroidery marketplace.

They are alone in this approach - just ask Gigi Louis - every other format is available as open source code for companies that make conversion software such as Embird.

I still use Artlink - it's fine for resizing and and rotating designs. But that's really all it can do. I do like Bernina's automatic stitch count adjustment when you resize a design. That's something I'd really not rather think about!

And I do love my 180E.

Phyllis
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Date: 8/30/05 9:10 PM

Oh Yea!!! I can get inexpensive design downloads and start using my embroidery module again. That is good news. I love my 170 very much and I may just start loving my embroidery module too. Thanks for the update. The relationship between OESD and Bernina probably has made all the difference. I'm sure it happened while I turned my back on embroidery. What a pleasant surprise!

Now if my DH would just upgrade my computer system from the stone ages of Microsoft 95 to 98 I'd be really on a roll.

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Date: 8/30/05 11:38 PM

Sherril and Phyllis, Don't despair! I'm also a Bernina owner and there are now many digitizers who have ART format designs available. I think this is a change over the past few years. I have a raft of very nice and free ART designs as well as those I have paid for. If you'd like, I'll check through my bookmarks list and list some of my favorites. OESD is owned by Bernina so they definitely have ART but there are many, many choices available.

There is new software available, Explorations, which OESD sells and it is modular. It will convert to ART and do some cool things much less expensively than the Artista software. Explorations webpage; this doesn't tell you that much about it unfortunately.

I am no expert on embroidery but I'll try to answer any questions you have. I have a very good dealer and I'll ask them if I don't know the answer.

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Date: 8/31/05 8:37 AM

Well it's interesting that Bernina has finally atempted to market less expensive software!

There's not much on that web site other than the price - which is $399 - still more than I think it's worth when compared to other editing software such as Embird, which is $99.

I also notice that you pretty much have to go to a Bernina dealer to demo it - there are no technical specs on the site - a software industry marketing standard the Bernina doesn't seem to to feel they need to adhere to.

I think for now I'll stick with commercial designs - more and more studios are formatting their desings for .art.

Phyllis

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Date: 8/31/05 8:40 AM

Phyllis, when OESD brought out Explorations, I 'know' they had more info about it. But, if you don't need/want it and can get where you want to go without it, there's no reason to buy another piece of software. Added: I did find a site with a little more info Keizer Bernina. Just FYI.
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Date: 8/31/05 11:43 AM

I knew it was too good to be true. I just downloaded a free design in .ART format and -- you guessed it. My Artlink is V2.0 and the designs are for V3.0 or V4.0. My version won't read the files. So I'm still screwed. I have a feeling that I'm going to have to spend the $$$ to buy Artlink all over again to get this to work. I'm so sorry I got the embroidery module. I don't really want to put more $$$ into this, I just want what I already bought to work. GGGRRR

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