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Deepika, bummer this top didn't work! I checked Gigi's review, and she said she transferred a 1 inch bust dart to the gathers under the bust, but that she'd also lower the empire seam another 3/4 inch or so the next time she made the top, so it sounds like you may need to really lower that empire seam ...
3/3/04 7:08 AM
Can you show us a picture of it? That might help the expert review panel onboard at PR.
3/3/04 7:30 AM
I've just uploaded the photo. Sorry its sheer so I cant show it on me. This photo may not be that helpful though :(
3/3/04 7:42 AM
Deepika, the top looks very pretty, sorry it doesn't fit well. I recently made a knit top with a v-neckline and, after finishing it, realized I should have raised the neckline. How do you do this alteration? Thanks.
3/3/04 10:13 AM
Runrover thanks. This is how I raised the V Neck. The center front is a straight line so I extended it towards the neckline an inch. Then I took my french curve and drew a curve from the new point to the shoulder point. Hope this makes sense. Another way to raise the neckline is to raise the armholes. Just make a horzontal pleat in the middle on the armholes that will raise both the armholes as well as the neckline. You might need to add length to the rest of the top if you do this though. Hope this makes sense.
3/3/04 11:04 AM
Deepika: thanks so much fo the information; it makes perfect sense as I imagine it. I'm going to try it on the next top.
3/3/04 11:07 AM
Deepika: I read in your message board comments that you haven't worn empire styles before. I wonder if it might be a good idea to do some snoop shopping and see if that style really is for you. I personally love empire styles by I am basically flat chested. I have found that they really don't do well on my DD who has a very similar figure to me but has a full bust. I've also noticed in movies that empire styles don't seem to do well on full busted actresses. Maybe it's just my impression. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this about empire style tops.
3/3/04 11:46 AM
Deepika, could you put this sheer top on over something like a camisole? That might help us observers come up with some fitting suggestions.
3/3/04 12:06 PM
I have to agree with drsue on this one. I too love an empire waist, and I am really small busted. My sister absolutley could not wear this style (full bust).
3/3/04 3:26 PM
Sorry that the pattern did not work. Especially since you seem to have luck with Kwik Sew. Even though it does not fit, it is very pretty looking in the photo.
3/3/04 3:49 PM
Deepika, your photo of this top is very pretty. Sorry it ddn't work for you. Although I haven't reviewed it (shame on me) I made two of these last summer, and would use this pattern again. In fact, your review reminded me that I have this pattern. I like this style, but I haven't been blessed with much of a bust. I would have to agree with the other suggestions that it probably works better for a smaller bustline.
3/3/04 4:54 PM
Maybe you are right. The style isnt just for me. But I just remembered: Take a look at this outfit. Isn't this an empire waist also? But then again, maybe that outfit also doesnt look good on me. You be the judge. I will wear a camisole and take a photo tonight. As you can tell I really want to make this top work :)
3/3/04 5:10 PM
Deepika: that dress is empire and it does look good on you. I think the difference is the high neckline. Maybe if you have a larger "twins" you can get away with the empire if the neck is high. I'm going to take that into consideration for my DD. BTW, I think that dress style would look bad on a flat-chested person like myself. I think you nailed the problem.
3/3/04 5:32 PM
ok I've added the photos at the bottom of the review. What do you think?
3/3/04 6:31 PM
Deepika -- it is really a cute top on you. The armholes actually look too big for you though; they gape and look too low as well. They look like they need to be cut higher and closer to your body.
3/3/04 6:40 PM
I'm guessing here, but when you lengthed the above bust area to get more length over the chest, it looks like you didn't do anything to the armhole. Therefore, this alteration may have lowered the armholes in advertantly. Could that have happened?
3/3/04 6:43 PM
The top is pretty, I'm sorry it didn't work out. I'm full busted and empire waists are very flattering on me - the problem is finding one with a seam that falls below the bust. I dont have fake boobs that sit on my chin so the seamline usually sits across the lower half of my bust - making the stomach area flap out and hide the waist I am trying to show off!! How do you lower the empire waist seam? Do you add more to the lower bust part?
3/3/04 6:43 PM
Irina I think you are right. I need to do something with the armholes, not sure what though. drsue When I split the pattern horizontally I did it under the armhole so that didnt get affected. Kate That's what happens with me. It makes me look pregnant when I am not! I am determined to make this work. To lower the empire wait seam (and its still not in the right place) I marked a horizontal line perpendicular to the grainline (in the top bodice piece), slashed the pattern and opened it 3/4". That resulted in longer front than back, which I simply eased in while sewing the front to the back. Sort of fake FBA (Full bust alteration)
3/3/04 6:52 PM
I reviewed Gigi's review of this pattern and noted that she made a dart on the side and then transferred the dart to the bust gathers. I bet that would eliminate the gapping armholes. You might still need to draft the armholes higher before you do the darting. This all seems very hard to me. I think I'll stop being jealous of women with breasts now.
3/3/04 7:08 PM
Deepika, after reading Leslie in Austin's review of the Butterick halter dress she made
3/3/04 7:15 PM
Click Here to see that review.
3/3/04 7:17 PM
Whoops, try again. Click Here to see that review.
3/3/04 7:21 PM
deepika, when you did your FBA, did you start with your usual KS size or did you go with the high bust measurement? the excess fullness in the bust looks like it's only on the sides, but that there's a good fit between your bust points. to help with the pregnant tummy look, could you just put a seam down the front to give you a place to adjust?
3/3/04 7:54 PM
Deepika, what an adorable top in adorable fabric. I'm sorry it didn't work for you. Looks like you've got lots of tips to try for your next one.
3/4/04 8:09 AM
The photo of the empire outfit you added looks beautiful on you! One difference I notice is that the outfit is more fitted than this top. Maybe it would help to take some in at the sides along with the adjustments to the armhole others have suggested.
3/4/04 8:20 AM
Deepika, This is such a cute top,love the fabric. You could possibly make it more wearable using a leotard technique. Using clear elastic and starting at the underarm seam, stitch the elastic with a narrow zig zag while stretching ever so slightly on the elastic till you end up where you started cut off remaining elastic.
3/4/04 9:12 AM
Deepika, your top turned out beautiful. Don't you hate it when things don't turn out the way you expect? In looking at your pictures, I would guess that you should try a smaller size for the chest/armhole area. This may resolve the problem with the v-neck, too. The bust area looks like it is causing some of the gaping in L picture. You may need more room width/length in the bust area. Maybe try deepened (pinchiing) the shoulder seam and see what happens. Good luck on your next version should you decide to try.
3/4/04 9:33 AM
the review was very thorough, letting me know exactly what to expect from the pattern - especially that I want to avoid it.
3/4/04 6:07 PM
Yes I had the same trouble and complaints too! I suggest make it in a smaller size but it looks like the length of the bodice part is right and the width of the bit around the waist is also right so you will need to basically draw a new size for yourself. I did persevere and eventually ended up with something that fits well. My best effort was in a fabric that has some spandex I htink.
9/11/06 0:11 AM