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Posted on: 10/30/14 6:25 PM ET
I found this pattern for a poncho sweater on Ravelry. There are over 60 finished items shown! But, I cannot figure out the instructions for Round 20 and beyond. I've not heard back from requests for help from the author and a couple of folks who made it successfully. I'm making the size 7/8 for my granddaughter. Can anyone help me?
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Posted on: 10/30/14 7:34 PM ET
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Hmmm I am not getting it either...
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Posted on: 10/30/14 8:32 PM ET
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Here's the picture of the poncho your making.


Rnd 19: Sleeve Section
slip stitch into ch 1 sp. do full shell, do a total of 11 1/2 shells than you will skip a total of 15 half shells for your arm opening. You will than do the 1/2 shell into the 16th space after the 15th half shell skipped. Continue pattern to the center full shell. Than you will do 10 1/2 shells again and repeat for next sleeve..

Rnd 20 slip stitch into ch 1 sp, do full shell, 1/2 shells into each ch 1 space. In the arm hole you will do a 1/2 shell ch1. Repeat around You are working on the armhole area.
Im still trying to figure it out. I think I'll have to do this one
for my granddaughter.
Hopefully some one will come along and help.

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Posted on: 10/30/14 8:43 PM ET
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repeat.



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Posted on: 10/30/14 9:49 PM ET
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On the armhole opening you are repeating the same stitch pattern as you have been doing, except for the center full shell (because there is no center). They are not the best written directions.

(You may have gotten more response if you had put this in the Knitting Lounge section as yarned projects are discussed there. Many members avoid Misc.)
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Posted on: 10/31/14 0:16 AM ET
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I don't knit and just figured asking a crochet question would be unwelcome in the Knitting Lounge.
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Posted on: 10/31/14 0:21 AM ET
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Yes, I've accessed and searched the instructions for the other sizes, thinking maybe she just inadvertently left out a phrase or something. I feel really frustrated when I look at all the successfully finished projects made from this pattern on Ravelry. How is it all those folks "got" it and I can't?
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Posted on: 10/31/14 4:47 AM ET
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They do talk about crocheting in the Knitting Lounge. Yes, it probably should be the Knitting and Crocheting Lounge. (Maybe we should start a protest. LOL)

Exactly which part is causing you such frustration? You have been going round and round and now must make the armhole. If you don't, you'll wind up with a poncho. It's really a cute outfit.
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Posted on: 10/31/14 6:51 AM ET
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I don't knit and just figured asking a crochet question would be unwelcome in the Knitting Lounge.


Now why do you think that? Not true!

In my 2-3 decades as a knitter/crocheter, I have noticed the polarization between the two. Knitters sneer at crocheters. Crocheters sneer at knitters. And no, I am not exaggerating, this is the truth. What I have never understood is WHY?

These crafts are not very different, they are just variations on a theme. If you do both, you know that the stitches are basically the same thing - a loop pulled through a loop. The main differences are just in how you pull those loops through (by hook or by needle) and how the rows are worked together (working one live stitch at a time into the other stitches in crochet, or working across a whole row of live stitches in knitting.) But the stitches are the same! If anyone doubts this, crochet a chain, then look carefully at the top of the chain - that is just like the knit side. Look at the back of the chain - that is just like the purl side. You are only working back into those stitches in a different dimension, that is all.

I have found in my experience that crochet patterns tend to be very poorly written compared to knitting patterns. Crochet pattern writers usually go into way too much detail which actually makes it more confusing. Whereas a knitting pattern might say something like "work even until piece measures 7" then dec 1 st on each edge until 24 sts remain" a crochet pattern will write out EVERY SINGLE ROW and describe EVERY SINGLE DECREASE until the same directions are a page long!

Usually when I crochet, I will look for charts so I can just see what I'm doing without slogging through a long, detailed, confusing written pattern.

Well having said all that, I haven't looked at your pattern yet. I'll take a look and see if I can help. And please don't hesitate to post in the Knitting Forum. If anyone has an issue, tell them to take it up with me!


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Posted on: 10/31/14 1:41 PM ET
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I think basically what it's saying is that in row 19, as you're making the pattern stitch around, you skip 15 half shells (which becomes your arm opening) and put your next 1/2 shell into the space after the 15th half shell. Then you do 10 in the pattern, then skip another 15 for your 2nd arm opening. When you go to row 20, you make half shells in each of the ch-1 spaces, and they want to emphasize that you even make the half shell in that ch-1 space where you had skipped the 15 half shells previously. So really, they're making it confusing by specifically telling you to make a half shell in that ch-1 space.
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