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Posted on: 11/9/05 10:58 AM ET
I subscribe to Burda Plus. Recently I was able to obtain a copy of La Mia Boutique on Ebay. Does anyone out there know how their sizes compare. They seem to be radically different. The Burda size 48 seems to compare to the La Mia Boutique size 54.


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Posted on: 11/9/05 11:07 AM ET
I don't know at all about La Mia, but the name insinuates that it is Italian or french in origin..? Burda is, of course, German. My Mom always reminds me that Burda is drafted "larger" than many other European patterns to accomodate the often "more big boned" Germans. I'm Swedish myself and quite big-boned (not heavy, just meaning the frame of my body... broader shoulders etc, will never be Kate Moss-thin) but not quite as big-boned as most Germans. I can trace a 36 for pants in Burda when I really should be wearing a 38-40, for exapmle, only becasue of how they're drafted. So, with that in mind, it's easy to assume that La Mia is then drafted for slightly smaller frames which would account for the size difference. Clear as mud..?
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Posted on: 11/9/05 11:14 AM ET
On the same note, I haven't yet tried the Ottobre Design patterns for women, but look forward to since they "should" be drafted for my exact bodytype. I've found that their children's patterns fit my children BY FAR the best, which is understandable since they're built like me, tall and slender, LOL! US patterns always seem too wide for them, at least the Big4 (haven't tried kwik Sew).
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Posted on: 11/9/05 12:07 PM ET
In reply to mastdenman
Evatgirl is right . The Spanish and Italian patterns are drafted with their customers in mind of course. The sizes are about 2 sizes smaller than a Burda or Knip.
It is the same with rtw.

For a woman with a bust of about 88cm, a waist of about 72cm and hips of about 96cm, her dress size at the moment is:
12 in the UK
C38 in Norway, Sweden and Finland
40 in Belgium and France
38 in Germany and the Netherlands
44 in Italy
44/46 in Portugal and Spain.
(10 in the USA)


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Posted on: 11/9/05 12:38 PM ET
Thanks. That actually does make sense. My mother was of German/Prussian descent and while she was not heavy, she was short and big boned. She wore a size 12 to 14 U.S. When she became old and frail and under 100 lbs., she got down to a size 10 to 12 U.S.
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Posted on: 11/9/05 2:18 PM ET
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Eva, I haven't yet tried Ottobre patterns, but I find Kwik Sew for kids generally much better than the Big4 for my skinny kids.
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Posted on: 11/9/05 2:43 PM ET
Eva, in Europe it is not uncommon for RTW in the stores to have a label where it says: size 40 Italy, 38 Germany, 10 UK or something like this... I mean, there is no uniformity among countries in RTW, even less in patterns.
Also, even if the Bust/waist/hips measurements are the same for say German size 38 and say Italian 40 (this is just an example), in my experience Italian and Spanish clothes have higher bust point and maybe wider back, definitely shorter crotch length.
So, measure yourself and check all measurement for the size your choose, don't think that a certain size translates into other certain size completely because it does not.
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Posted on: 11/9/05 3:03 PM ET
Thanks for the input. I'll have to use a sloper to adjust things.
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Posted on: 11/9/05 8:50 PM ET
Mastdenman, my grandmother was also of Prussian descent and was short and big-boned. Is this a trait of the Prussian area?

My grandfather's parents came from Holland and that side of the family are tall and big-boned. I don't know if that is typical of the Dutch people, but I guess in the Netherlands, they probably also use the German sizing?
  
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Posted on: 11/9/05 9:04 PM ET
I don't know if it's a Prussian trait, but I think it may be. Many people from that area are short, but big boned. We call it peasant stock.
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