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Posted on: 11/26/17 1:22 PM ET
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I started this morning looking at various ways to do an FBA, but something caught my eye about our daughters early onset puberty becoming more prevalent. Too many young girls are developing the need for a FBA too early in their lives!

I found this article when I began a search to find the scientific report that was published sometime back in 1976 (+/-). The report I was looking for came from a medical research project that was done in Puerto Rico about that time. If memory serves me correctly they had introduced hormones to the chicken farms that were the sole source of all of the chickens consumed on the island at that time. It didn't take too long before those hormones were affecting young girls. I think it was about three years from the time they instituted the use of hormones on chickens to the time they started to see (record) development changes in the young girls.

My point in bringing all of this up today is two fold. I believe that if you can't afford "clean meat"--don't feed your children the other stuff! No--it doesn't have to be "organic", but it does have to say "no hormones, chemicals, etc."

The other thing that I found interesting in the article I posted above is this: that article and those doctors doing the research today seem to be unaware of a research project that was done back in the 1970's! How could that be?
  
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Posted on: 11/26/17 2:00 PM ET
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I read an article concerning this along time ago. If I remember correctly, it was one of the points brought up concerning the hormones that were promoted to be given to dairy cows (rBGH) so the producers could produce more milk from each cow. There was alot of controversy at the time. Today, it isn't only "clean" meat, you must add (beside the hormones), what the animals and plants are being fed (yes, what is put on the soil (read about China farming) & chemicals used on everything we eat...including gmos, chemicals, antibiotics, arsenic in some chicken feed, etc, etc. one has to be an informed consumer. The list goes on & on.....then there is the medical/dental stuff....another whole subject down the same line. One must know their source of food. (we don't spray, use chemicals...etc on our grass fed closed herd). Then there is no till farming which is nothing but chemicals, (sigh)....As it has been said "if it isn't in the soil, it can't get into the grass, therefor can't get into the animal that we eat"... in other words "we are what we eat!"
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Posted on: 11/26/17 2:08 PM ET
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After spending over 3 decades with middle schoolers and doing research on the topic- there is no one answer. The hormones fed to animals is a minor player. Obesity (because fat holds hormones produced by the body better), environmental chemicals, and stress are the most likely culprits. The Huffington Post is not a scientifically reliable site statistically speaking.


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Posted on: 11/26/17 2:44 PM ET
[QUOTE]article article from China ......then there is the soy issue....

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Posted on: 11/26/17 3:09 PM ET
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Posted on: 11/26/17 3:11 PM ET
Oh No! Not Soy !! I just bought a boutique bottle of soy cost a bundle! Supposed to be cleaner, healthier, more everything--it does taste better IMHO!
  
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Posted on: 11/26/17 3:48 PM ET
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I was told to avoid all soy products. I love to eat Chinese food and prepare all dishes without soy sauce or tofu.
  
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Posted on: 11/26/17 3:59 PM ET
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The article cited is from the mid 80s when all they looked at were hormones in meat. Later studies on larger groups in Puerto Rico showed that phthalates from plastics were in higher amounts and obesity was also prevalent. It is one of those problems that does not have one cause - or one solution.
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Posted on: 11/26/17 3:59 PM ET
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I always liked to use Maggi seasoning. Many moons ago I visited the Maggi factory in Switzerland. At the time the main ingredient was plant extract. Now it's soy. My favorite bouillon cubes used to be Knorr. Not anymore,the second ingredient is MSG I'm allergic to. One can read online MSG can cause among other things obesity too.

Online I found recipes how to make plant based dry bouillon. For years we have a lovage plant in our backyard. One or two lovage leaves in soup replaces Maggi seasoning.

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Posted on: 11/26/17 4:47 PM ET
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TeeGee, I'd be really interested in hearing more about your chinese food without soy. Soy is in so many things, in all kinds of different forms, that it's just easier to forgo many foods but if there's a work around for Chinese, I'd love to know it!
  
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