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Don't want to over tighten my hoop. (Moderated by Pyrose)
Posted on: 5/28/18 2:19 AM ET
After a few hiccups and tears, I have finally got my Janome 400e started on my xmas project.

I saw this many years ago, and thought that an embroidered bauble cover, in bright white or even metallics, fitted over a glass bauble, would be a nice xmas gift for my work friends. Of course, if this first one is anything to go by, its going to be a slow process, but oh well, thats why you start early.
So, I am using one layer of wash away stabiliser, and a pearlised white embroidery thread that I bought at the same time as the machine. I could tell right away, as soon as I was hooping, that I was going to have problems with the stabiliser slipping in the hoop, and as the design is going on, I can see that the stabiliser is pulling a little bit. Its still stitching out fine, but its not perfectly flat.
So my question is: is there a method for making the stabiliser grip into the hoop? perhaps some sort of tape or fabric?
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I saw this many years ago, and thought that an embroidered bauble cover, in bright white or even metallics, fitted over a glass bauble, would be a nice xmas gift for my work friends. Of course, if this first one is anything to go by, its going to be a slow process, but oh well, thats why you start early.
So, I am using one layer of wash away stabiliser, and a pearlised white embroidery thread that I bought at the same time as the machine. I could tell right away, as soon as I was hooping, that I was going to have problems with the stabiliser slipping in the hoop, and as the design is going on, I can see that the stabiliser is pulling a little bit. Its still stitching out fine, but its not perfectly flat.
So my question is: is there a method for making the stabiliser grip into the hoop? perhaps some sort of tape or fabric?
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the barefoot seamstress ..... smelling vaguely of lavender and mothballs, and desperately craving chocolate.
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Posted on: 5/28/18 3:27 AM ET
My 400E came with grey clips to help hold stuff in place and I often use bulldog clips to help strengthen the hold.
Posted on: 5/28/18 4:19 AM ET
I've used product similar to the rubberised shelf liner that used to be for RV's but now seems to be very common. its a very thin open weave rubber. I've also used painters/blue low tac tape that doesn't leave residue around edges.
Posted on: 5/28/18 4:40 AM ET
In reply to with love Heidi
Yes I have those grey clips, and they have been brilliant so far, when I stitched a design onto an existing dress. I quite like them, but not sure they would hold the stabiliser as well.
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the barefoot seamstress ..... smelling vaguely of lavender and mothballs, and desperately craving chocolate.
www.castley.net/datcat
www.castley.net/datcat
Posted on: 5/28/18 6:59 AM ET
In reply to Datcat23
Washaway wonder tape and if you need additional control to prevent hoop slippage with the pull generated with high stitch count designs, use pins or hoop clamps/clips.
The key thing is to ensure the stabiliser (& fabric if used) is secure along the straight edges.
As a matter of course I use washaway wondertape on the underneath of all my inner hoops and am very careful to avoid over-tightening the hoop screw.
I'd never use rug grip or the the grip shelf liner because anything extra placed between the inner and outer hoops will contribute to hoop distortion on the straight edges and therefore help create the issue it's supposed to resolve (- It's basic physics).
Tutorial about Joan Warr's method
-- Edited on 5/28/18 at 7:02 AM --
The key thing is to ensure the stabiliser (& fabric if used) is secure along the straight edges.
As a matter of course I use washaway wondertape on the underneath of all my inner hoops and am very careful to avoid over-tightening the hoop screw.
I'd never use rug grip or the the grip shelf liner because anything extra placed between the inner and outer hoops will contribute to hoop distortion on the straight edges and therefore help create the issue it's supposed to resolve (- It's basic physics).
Tutorial about Joan Warr's method
-- Edited on 5/28/18 at 7:02 AM --
Posted on: 5/28/18 7:26 AM ET
Purely gates method.
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Posted on: 5/28/18 8:51 AM ET
In reply to aslinnd
Quote: aslinnd
I've also used painters/blue low tac tape that doesn't leave residue around edges.
I've also used painters/blue low tac tape that doesn't leave residue around edges.
Blue painter's tape always worked very well for me. I read the "how to" instructions a long time ago,before I had an embroidery machine. Picture tutorials have been online for several years now.
Posted on: 5/28/18 3:18 PM ET
I wrap hoops with a hank of clear elastic (barber pole style and tie it off) when I want to stitch on cotton or nylon organdy with no stabilizer at all. I think you should use the smallest hoop you can fit some parts of anything into though, not the largest hoop you can fit the most multiples of something into. Just since the larger the hoop, the more registration problems you would/could get always, anyways.
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-- Edited on 5/28/18 at 3:21 PM --
Posted on: 5/29/18 10:10 AM ET
Change stabilizers
Here's a video
You may have to add a layer of washaway stabilizer on top so the stitches are smooth.
Here's a video
You may have to add a layer of washaway stabilizer on top so the stitches are smooth.
Posted on: 5/29/18 11:35 AM ET
In reply to sewdoggie22
Quote: sewdoggie22
You may have to add a layer of washaway stabilizer on top so the stitches are smooth.
You may have to add a layer of washaway stabilizer on top so the stitches are smooth.
Years ago,when I bought my embroidery machine the dealer showed me the same embroidery design samples stitched with and without a washaway topper. Most of the time I like to use washaway toppers.
I don't always wash items I embroidered with a washaway topper. I use tweezers to remove bits and pieces. When I embroidered my first roll of toilet paper gag gift everyone was laughing out loud,wondered how I did it,and wanted one.

Embroidery Library has a very good picture tutorial on how to hoop TP.
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