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I'm so depressed (Moderated by Sharon1952)
Posted on: 10/9/06 6:12 PM ET
I have the worst time making pants that fit. I always end up with these really wierd crotch issues. I think I just got a hint of why that might be. I think that the way I was taught is simply not going to get me anywere near a wearable pair of pants. I had a muslin that I took to a seamstress today. After much hmmming and hawing... she looked at my pattern. Then with a confused, and I must say, HORRIFIED, look she says hesitantly "is this the way the taught you to do this in school?" Like she is trying to come up with some reason that anyone would butcher a pattern like this. At this point, I simply have no ideas on how to learn to fit pants for myself. I've tried all the courses around here which rely mostly on the P/P method and frankly, leave me with pants that could fit me and two other people besides the wierd crotch issues. I really just don't know where to go from here other than I had the seamstress make the pants for the new suit I need and I'm making the jacket. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Posted on: 10/9/06 6:15 PM ET
Ask the seamstress to make a pants sloper for you. Then you can use it to make any style of pants that you want.
Posted on: 10/9/06 7:29 PM ET
I second AliceM's suggestion... just pay her to fit a sloper to you. It will be some of the best $$ you have EVER spent. Really!!!
Posted on: 10/9/06 8:29 PM ET
Good suggestions to have a custom made sloper. Have you tried anything other than PP for your patterns? Making good fitting pants is a long, long, long on going process. Don't give up - just keep at it and sooner or later you are going to find the one that fits well - with some tweaking. Just remember all the pant fitting books are there for a reason - it is tough to get a good fit.
Most of us have been through what you are now experiencing so keep at it - you will succed - don't be depressed or frustrated - talk to PR members - we will help - so few of us have ever made pants that fit 100% right out of the envelope
Most of us have been through what you are now experiencing so keep at it - you will succed - don't be depressed or frustrated - talk to PR members - we will help - so few of us have ever made pants that fit 100% right out of the envelope
Posted on: 10/9/06 8:56 PM ET
I agree with the other posters. If you have a good seamstress, have her do the sloper. Personally, I had good luck with a PatternMaster Boutique pattern which was computer generated for me when I attended a pants making seminar.
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Posted on: 10/10/06 2:12 AM ET
In reply to Susan C
Susan, I feel your pain. Pants muslin #24 in laying on my sewing table and I'm procrastinating about trying them on. If these don't fit extremely well I'm going to have to take a mental health vacation from sewing.
My quest for properly fitting pants started even when I was a size 7/8. My waist is larger and my legs smaller in proportion to my hips. My crotch length is freakishly short.
This go-around I started with FFRP, Pants for Real People and tissue fitting, Fast Fit, every piece of information on this website, Debbie, Marilyn, Sherril and Jan Minott's book on fitting skirts and pants. My fitting issues have become a community project as I have posted embarrassing pictures of my rear end and numerous generous sewers have posted an invaluable wealth of information and observations that have helped immensely. I think that was a run-on sentence, lol.
So my advice, if you can't get the seamstress to make a sloper, would be to get Pants for Real People to start. Then when you've gotten as far as you can by yourself, post a picture. I wish you luck.
My quest for properly fitting pants started even when I was a size 7/8. My waist is larger and my legs smaller in proportion to my hips. My crotch length is freakishly short.
This go-around I started with FFRP, Pants for Real People and tissue fitting, Fast Fit, every piece of information on this website, Debbie, Marilyn, Sherril and Jan Minott's book on fitting skirts and pants. My fitting issues have become a community project as I have posted embarrassing pictures of my rear end and numerous generous sewers have posted an invaluable wealth of information and observations that have helped immensely. I think that was a run-on sentence, lol.

So my advice, if you can't get the seamstress to make a sloper, would be to get Pants for Real People to start. Then when you've gotten as far as you can by yourself, post a picture. I wish you luck.
Posted on: 10/10/06 9:21 AM ET
Or make a pant sloper yourself. It's really not too hard--muich easier than making your own bodic sloper. I can only say that I have always found altering patterns to be very confusing, but drafting from scratch to be much easier and make a lot of sense.
I use "European Cut" by Elizabeth Allemong.
I use "European Cut" by Elizabeth Allemong.
Posted on: 10/10/06 9:29 AM ET
I've always had trouble making pants that fit properly too. I have had success with TROUSER DRAFT - by Kenneth King. This guides you through how to draft your own pattern using your measurements. It looked intimidating at first, but when you take the time to go thru it step-by-step it's not really hard or complicated. And for me, it worked!
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Beverly
Posted on: 10/10/06 10:26 AM ET
In reply to BJ1400
BJ1400 - if you get a chance, would you mind sharing the ISBN number for Kenneth Kings Trouser Draft? I would love to get my hands on a copy! :)
Posted on: 10/10/06 10:54 AM ET
In reply to Sue_WA
Sue - you can get it from PR. Look under the "Shop Patterns & More" tab.
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