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Member since 9/7/07
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Posted on: 11/19/08 1:03 PM ET
I recently made the pants from the latest Ottobre Woman Magazine. The full review is here. For the most part, these pants fit awesome - very comfy and I don't need to wear a belt with them. But I still have some wrinkles across the back of the thighs:



Is this the full inner thigh problem? Do I need a knock knee alteration? I've seen two different alterations - there's the wedge alteration and the one where you move the lower part of the leg out and redraw the side seams and inseams. I love this pattern in it's current state, but there's always room to try some improvements!
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Posted on: 11/19/08 1:35 PM ET
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I don't really think that you have full inner thighs, and usually this shows up more on the front of pants.
It looks like you have too much fabric between the crotch and the knee. Debbie Cook has a good tutorial on fixing this.
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Yours doesn't look exactly the same as Debbies, but I still think that you need this. There may be more involved here, but fix one problem at a time. Pin out a pleat horizontally below your crotch until the leg is smooth, ending at nothing at the inseam and the outseam. The shape is why it's called a fisheye dart.
Without seeing a side view it's hard to tell, but I'd bet you need a sway back adjustment. Pin out a dart horizontally above your crotch, below the waist and see if the upper wrinkles disappear. These are two different alterations
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Posted on: 11/19/08 2:28 PM ET
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Ann,
When you put your legs together do your thighs touch? Do your knees touch? The full inner thigh problem isn't just about full thighs. It is also has to do with the design of your pelvis and leg attachment. If your thighs touch or your knees touch then (the way I understand Minnott's method) you could do the shifting of the bottom leg pant over. This puts the grainline of the pant down your center. I have wide hips and when I put my legs together, my shape is like an inverted triangle or half of a diamond shape. This throws the grainline off and can cause some those wrinkles.

I agree with Nancy that you could pin out some of the material between the top of your inseam and your knee but remember you need to sit and walk. You don't want to over fit.

Debbie Cook has written about the fish eye dart removal and the Minnott method. You might want to review her blog for this information. It is very helpful.

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Posted on: 11/19/08 3:39 PM ET
Nancy, here is the front view and the side view:





The waist band is wacky on this pair because I decided the rise was too high and hacked an inch off the top of the pants before I attached the waistband. This caused problems with the darts. The next time I make these I need to shorten the rise the right way.

Woggy, my thighs definitely touch, but my knees don't. I have a 29" waist and 25" thighs, so I think there's got to be some fullness in there somewhere. I always add width to the inseam starting at the crotch and tapering down to nothing above the knees.
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