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Posted on: 11/20/08 11:11 AM ET
I'm using sweatshirt fleece and making sweatpants with embroidery down the left leg. On the first pair, I didn't hoop it and just used basting spray. I was planning on hooping the leg of the second pair, but wanted to know if sweatshirt fleece can get hoop burn like velvet.
I looked at my sample yesterday and can see slight evidence of the hooping. What would you embroidery experts do?
Help sure would be appreciated.
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I looked at my sample yesterday and can see slight evidence of the hooping. What would you embroidery experts do?
Help sure would be appreciated.
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Big 4 Pattern size 12, RTW bottom: 6, RTW jacket 8, RTW top (no size fits me well!)
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing: Elna 760, vintage Kenmore Model 33 (1967), Janome Gem Gold 3, Singer Model 99, Singer 221/Featherweight, Bernina 1630. Sergers: Babylock Enlighten and Babylock Ovation. Embroidery Only: Janome 300E. Embroidery/Sewing Combo: Brother Dream machine. Straight Stitch: Janome 1600P.
Certified Palmer/Pletsch Pants Fitting Instructor
Blog: 21stcenturydiy.blogspot.com
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing: Elna 760, vintage Kenmore Model 33 (1967), Janome Gem Gold 3, Singer Model 99, Singer 221/Featherweight, Bernina 1630. Sergers: Babylock Enlighten and Babylock Ovation. Embroidery Only: Janome 300E. Embroidery/Sewing Combo: Brother Dream machine. Straight Stitch: Janome 1600P.
Certified Palmer/Pletsch Pants Fitting Instructor
Blog: 21stcenturydiy.blogspot.com
Posted on: 11/20/08 2:13 PM ET
I don't hoop sweatshirts or any kind of fleece - I have too hard a time getting that thick a fabric to line up properly in my hoops (ditto towels).
Much easier to hoop the stabilizer, give it a shot of spray adhesive, and then lay the sweatshirt onto the stabilizer. With fleece and thick sweatshirts, I use a sheet of thin Solvy as a topper so the embroidery doesn't "sink in" as much.
If it's a really intricate design, particularly one with any sort of outline stitch, then I'll use a basting stitch in addition to the spray adhesive to be sure nothing shifts. I find it too tough to pin thick fabrics to the stablizer.
Good luck!
Much easier to hoop the stabilizer, give it a shot of spray adhesive, and then lay the sweatshirt onto the stabilizer. With fleece and thick sweatshirts, I use a sheet of thin Solvy as a topper so the embroidery doesn't "sink in" as much.
If it's a really intricate design, particularly one with any sort of outline stitch, then I'll use a basting stitch in addition to the spray adhesive to be sure nothing shifts. I find it too tough to pin thick fabrics to the stablizer.
Good luck!
Posted on: 11/20/08 7:10 PM ET
I also recommend using a Magna Hoop. With this you hoop the stabilizer and than place the fabric to be embroidered on top of the hoop and place the magna hoop on top. Works great and there's no way to get hoop burn. It's well worth the investment. Wendy
Posted on: 11/21/08 1:01 AM ET
In reply to ryan's mom
I rarely hoop ANYTHING! I usually use Hydro-stick or Wet-N-Stick water activated stabilizer. You hoop the stabilizer, draw on any centering lines you need and then lightly mist or sponge-brush on some water. This makes it get sticky and you can just flop the item on it--centered of course! Sometimes I will baste as well if it is an awkward item that is hard to get in the machine. When you are ready to remove from stabilizer or cut around design, you just re-moisten it and it comes right off.
I have found that the Magna Hoop works really well for towels and things you don't want their "loopies" pulled. I plan on using my Magna Hoops more! I can use less expensive stabilizer that way
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I have found that the Magna Hoop works really well for towels and things you don't want their "loopies" pulled. I plan on using my Magna Hoops more! I can use less expensive stabilizer that way

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Janome 6500P, Babylock Eclipse SX, Janome Coverpro 1000, Babylock BLCS, Juki 654 (2), Babylock Spirit, Juki TL2010q, Brother PE770
Posted on: 11/21/08 10:32 PM ET
Thanks for your comments everyone! That Magna Hoop...I wonder if I can use that with my Janome 300E? I think I can. Thought I read somewhere, maybe in the 300E thread that it was possible.
Mrs. Moose, how can use use less expensive stabilizer with the Magna Hoop? I'm missing something on that.
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Mrs. Moose, how can use use less expensive stabilizer with the Magna Hoop? I'm missing something on that.
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Big 4 Pattern size 12, RTW bottom: 6, RTW jacket 8, RTW top (no size fits me well!)
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing: Elna 760, vintage Kenmore Model 33 (1967), Janome Gem Gold 3, Singer Model 99, Singer 221/Featherweight, Bernina 1630. Sergers: Babylock Enlighten and Babylock Ovation. Embroidery Only: Janome 300E. Embroidery/Sewing Combo: Brother Dream machine. Straight Stitch: Janome 1600P.
Certified Palmer/Pletsch Pants Fitting Instructor
Blog: 21stcenturydiy.blogspot.com
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing: Elna 760, vintage Kenmore Model 33 (1967), Janome Gem Gold 3, Singer Model 99, Singer 221/Featherweight, Bernina 1630. Sergers: Babylock Enlighten and Babylock Ovation. Embroidery Only: Janome 300E. Embroidery/Sewing Combo: Brother Dream machine. Straight Stitch: Janome 1600P.
Certified Palmer/Pletsch Pants Fitting Instructor
Blog: 21stcenturydiy.blogspot.com
Posted on: 11/21/08 11:12 PM ET
In reply to ryan's mom
Quote: ryan's mom
Mrs. Moose, how can use use less expensive stabilizer with the Magna Hoop? I'm missing something on that.
Mrs. Moose, how can use use less expensive stabilizer with the Magna Hoop? I'm missing something on that.
I can use the cheaper Walmart tear away or cut away that they sell on the bolt because I don't need to STICK the item on it with the Magna Hoop. It just holds it there so well. The water activated stabilizers are more expensive but they work nicely--they do not gum up the machine.
I would think you shoud be able to get the Magna hoop for your Janome--they do make a lot of sizes it seems. I have the 5x7 and the Jumbo which is for my 6x10 hoop. The only thing with the Magna Hoop is that you lose some embroidery area due to the plexiglass "frame". But they are nice to use.
Have you been a good girl this year?
Maybe Santa will bring you one or two if you make your list and get it posted on the fridge so the "head elf" will get the hint. Make sure you put ShoppersRule.com so the elf will know where to get the best price. Maybe you can even offer to do the ordering for him since they are SO BUSY at this time of year!

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Janome 6500P, Babylock Eclipse SX, Janome Coverpro 1000, Babylock BLCS, Juki 654 (2), Babylock Spirit, Juki TL2010q, Brother PE770
Posted on: 11/21/08 11:41 PM ET
All the advice above is good, even though I do not have a magna hoop. I have heard they are fabulous, but at the moment I am lusting after a gravity iron. (Does it ever end??) The stabilizer I use is very expensive, and I have reused cut away strips again if I can get away with it.
For hoopless designs many times I use that non-slip shelf liner cut in small squares slipped under each side of the hoop with the stabilizer. Then I use the adhesive spray, and actually, since I can see my entire design in the hoop on my computer, I do pin with these very small fine ones I have just for that purpose. I have done a basting stitch around the design as well to keep it from shifting. Those little squares of shelf liner was a tip from one of the woman from OZ that used to post here, and it works wonderfully. You know the stuff I mean that has the holes in it. I also use it under my machines and in the car when I am transporting food. Very useful stuff!
I also use solvy on top to keep the stitches from sinking in. If you do, make sure you store it in a gallon zip, as it drys out. I recently dissolved my clean tear aways in water and added alcohol to avoid mold. You can do this and brush or spray it on the fabric, let it dry. It makes fabric great for embroidery.
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For hoopless designs many times I use that non-slip shelf liner cut in small squares slipped under each side of the hoop with the stabilizer. Then I use the adhesive spray, and actually, since I can see my entire design in the hoop on my computer, I do pin with these very small fine ones I have just for that purpose. I have done a basting stitch around the design as well to keep it from shifting. Those little squares of shelf liner was a tip from one of the woman from OZ that used to post here, and it works wonderfully. You know the stuff I mean that has the holes in it. I also use it under my machines and in the car when I am transporting food. Very useful stuff!
I also use solvy on top to keep the stitches from sinking in. If you do, make sure you store it in a gallon zip, as it drys out. I recently dissolved my clean tear aways in water and added alcohol to avoid mold. You can do this and brush or spray it on the fabric, let it dry. It makes fabric great for embroidery.

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"Sewing should be fun; make it that way!" Margaret Islander
Flying through life by the seat of my pants and hoping I get my crotch curve right.
"No humiliation is too great for a well fitting pair of pants!" Heidi Cooper
J6500P,
J1600P
J3160DC
J350E
JCP1000
Babylock Enlighten serger
My grandmother's Feather Weight
Flying through life by the seat of my pants and hoping I get my crotch curve right.
"No humiliation is too great for a well fitting pair of pants!" Heidi Cooper
J6500P,
J1600P
J3160DC
J350E
JCP1000
Babylock Enlighten serger
My grandmother's Feather Weight
Posted on: 11/22/08 0:39 AM ET
In reply to Ody
Quote: Ody
The stabilizer I use is very expensive, and I have reused cut away strips again if I can get away with it.
The stabilizer I use is very expensive, and I have reused cut away strips again if I can get away with it.
I have been known to use my regular machine to stitch scraps of Hydrostick cutaway together in order to make a usable piece!
I keep the scraps in Ziplocks since they need to be kept from the air. i label each back with the weight of the stabilizer. Ditto on the Solvy. Again, I keep scraps of this in ziplocks and will lay it on top of a design in bits and pieces as it stitches out. Sometimes for small lettering etc, I will lay on 2 or 3 layers and hold in place with the long tweezers until they get tacked down. My son (16) is amazed by this stuff--how it dissolves with water!
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Janome 6500P, Babylock Eclipse SX, Janome Coverpro 1000, Babylock BLCS, Juki 654 (2), Babylock Spirit, Juki TL2010q, Brother PE770
Posted on: 11/22/08 6:40 PM ET
Lots of great ideas here! Thanks so much. This past summer I didn't have the right stabilizer so I used some med/heavyweight interfacing for one of my embroidery projects with basting spray. It was cheap Walmart sew-in interfacing and it worked just fine. I'm going to have to read up more on the Magna Hoop.
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Big 4 Pattern size 12, RTW bottom: 6, RTW jacket 8, RTW top (no size fits me well!)
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing: Elna 760, vintage Kenmore Model 33 (1967), Janome Gem Gold 3, Singer Model 99, Singer 221/Featherweight, Bernina 1630. Sergers: Babylock Enlighten and Babylock Ovation. Embroidery Only: Janome 300E. Embroidery/Sewing Combo: Brother Dream machine. Straight Stitch: Janome 1600P.
Certified Palmer/Pletsch Pants Fitting Instructor
Blog: 21stcenturydiy.blogspot.com
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing: Elna 760, vintage Kenmore Model 33 (1967), Janome Gem Gold 3, Singer Model 99, Singer 221/Featherweight, Bernina 1630. Sergers: Babylock Enlighten and Babylock Ovation. Embroidery Only: Janome 300E. Embroidery/Sewing Combo: Brother Dream machine. Straight Stitch: Janome 1600P.
Certified Palmer/Pletsch Pants Fitting Instructor
Blog: 21stcenturydiy.blogspot.com
Posted on: 11/22/08 8:17 PM ET
In reply to Mrs.Moos
OK---I debated on telling this---but I will relent and tell all.
Some of this solvy I had been saving was very old, although clean. (In other words, no fuzzies or creepies sticking when I tore it off and saved it in the bag.) I could not find that recipe for the amount of water to solvy, which I got back in the day on SW. So, I just took a large yogurt container and started mixing with water and then added alcohol. Some of the solvy refused to completely dissolve and floated around looking very slimy and disgusting. I reached in and started to fish is out to throw it away-----but then my creative mind went bizzerk!
There are times when it is a joy to have an 11 yo son, who at that age are always into gore. I took the slimy yuck and went up to him pretending to do a lot of coughing and choking, --- and then proceeded to fake gagging up a goober in my hand, which I promptly slimed on his arm!

He was totally grossed out!!! I laughed till I died!!! Later he comes up to me and seriously asked if it was real.
Now, if there are those who think I am mean---come to my kitchen and live with a parrot that imitates the grossest belch you ever heard on a consistent basis, and says regularly, "Pull my finger!" She also says with an attitude--"What ever!"
OK, I know I am a little off base here in an embroidery thread, but I could not help but relate my funny solvy story!


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Some of this solvy I had been saving was very old, although clean. (In other words, no fuzzies or creepies sticking when I tore it off and saved it in the bag.) I could not find that recipe for the amount of water to solvy, which I got back in the day on SW. So, I just took a large yogurt container and started mixing with water and then added alcohol. Some of the solvy refused to completely dissolve and floated around looking very slimy and disgusting. I reached in and started to fish is out to throw it away-----but then my creative mind went bizzerk!
There are times when it is a joy to have an 11 yo son, who at that age are always into gore. I took the slimy yuck and went up to him pretending to do a lot of coughing and choking, --- and then proceeded to fake gagging up a goober in my hand, which I promptly slimed on his arm!


He was totally grossed out!!! I laughed till I died!!! Later he comes up to me and seriously asked if it was real.Now, if there are those who think I am mean---come to my kitchen and live with a parrot that imitates the grossest belch you ever heard on a consistent basis, and says regularly, "Pull my finger!" She also says with an attitude--"What ever!"
OK, I know I am a little off base here in an embroidery thread, but I could not help but relate my funny solvy story!


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"Sewing should be fun; make it that way!" Margaret Islander
Flying through life by the seat of my pants and hoping I get my crotch curve right.
"No humiliation is too great for a well fitting pair of pants!" Heidi Cooper
J6500P,
J1600P
J3160DC
J350E
JCP1000
Babylock Enlighten serger
My grandmother's Feather Weight
Flying through life by the seat of my pants and hoping I get my crotch curve right.
"No humiliation is too great for a well fitting pair of pants!" Heidi Cooper
J6500P,
J1600P
J3160DC
J350E
JCP1000
Babylock Enlighten serger
My grandmother's Feather Weight
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