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Posted on: 1/2/10 11:28 PM ET
I have a very old, much-worn and loved silk top from the UK (Monsoon's, loved that store!), just a short-sleeve scoop-neck crinkle silk top, but it fit like a dream.

As it's now so worn and tired, I decided to cut it apart and make a pattern from it. Try finding a short-sleeve scoop-neck top (ie t-shirt) for non-knits, grrrr! None of them, and I've been searching for years, are what I want! (Which is a t-shirt but for wovens, lol).

What tickled me pink is when I noticed, after pressing the cut-apart seams, the notches (for matching seams, just as we do!) on the side seams and sleeves! There were even 2 notches indicating the back of the sleeve! We have more in common with factory sewers than not. I like that!

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Posted on: 1/3/10 0:46 AM ET
In reply to LynnRowe
That is nice..so many home sewers arent' using notches at all.were these cut out or in?

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If you are still looking for a woven Tshirt pattern..try the above, if you haven't already...This is my TNT pattern and it looks so much better thsn the drawings!
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Posted on: 1/3/10 0:56 AM ET
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They were cut in, which really made me feel cool, coz I cut them in, too. I serge most my tops, so I have to cut notches in or the serger would just chop them off.

I sorta feel like a real seamster now!

Thanks for the link! I actually have that pattern and was going to just adjust it, then figured what the heck, probably quicker to just do a pattern from my RTW top. What I am going to do tonight though, is compare the pattern I made from my RTW top to the Simplicity pattern & check the differences.

I really loved how the RTW fit at the armholes & sleeves, and now that I have it cut apart and flat, I've never seen a commercial home-sewing pattern cut like this RTW armscye and sleeve. The armhole curve from shoulder to underarm is like a J, straight and then quite a sharp up-curve. The sleeve has a very narrow cap, not high (it was sewn in flat), and the back of the sleeve is almost a straight angle. The front sleeve curve is very similiar to commercial patterns.

I'll sew a sample top tomorrow and hope it fits like my RTW did. I'll be a very happy sewer if so...and I may change all the armscye and sleeve patterns on all future commercial pattern tops I make.


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Posted on: 1/3/10 1:33 AM ET
In reply to LynnRowe
That sounds like an interesting sleeve curve..maybe I'll play with mine and see if I can make it like that..I usually have to raise the bust dart in that pattern and take a bit out of the sleeve..I think it has too much ease in the cap..sewing flat does appeal..but this is the pattern that has the perfect shoulder slope for me!! Worth it's weight in gold..

I always notch out..still hear my grandmother's voice in my head.."cut out! If you need to let way out, you'll have the material" No serger then or now..
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Posted on: 1/3/10 7:02 AM ET
That armhole curve sounds like something I read on Fashion Incubator - Kathleen Fasanella's site.
I've searched though & can't find it.
Does anyone else remember this post?

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Posted on: 1/3/10 7:34 AM ET
In reply to LynnRowe
I sewed in industry and notches were very important. If garment didn't turn out right you were in trouble if you didn't go by notches. I have found if you follow all rules of grain, notches etc. your garment just hangs and wears better.
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Posted on: 1/3/10 7:45 AM ET
Lynn, the armhole and sleeve sounds very interesting. Any chance of a photo?
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Posted on: 1/3/10 1:00 PM ET
In reply to RuthieSews
I'm currently rather camera-challenged; have one, no idea how to use it or DL pics to my computer, but I'm getting help with that next week, lol!

I'll take pics of the original RTW top pieces and the flat pattern pieces asap!
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Posted on: 1/3/10 1:18 PM ET
In reply to Mel.J
scroll down the post nearly to the end to see a drawing of an "anatomically correct" armscye

Fashion Incubator

lots of very interesting articles on this site!
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Posted on: 1/3/10 1:21 PM ET
In reply to RuthieSews
More info on the sleeve; there is a total of 1/2" ease in the sleeve, and all of it is placed between the underarm seam and the back notch, which is 4" up from the underarm seam. No ease anywhere else in the sleeve.

Very interesting! I may have to take apart more RTW clothing!
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